Ozark on Netflix: anyone watching? (Spoilers will come, but none in OP)

Starting a thread late on a Saturday night might be tempting fate, as weekend threads often sink to obscurity, but here goes.

The missus and i were looking for something to watch today, so we started browsing Netflix. We came across a show called Ozark, starring Jason Bateman and Laura Linney. We had heard nothing at all about it, and it turns out it was only released yesterday. We thought we’d give it a go.

I won’t put any spoilers in the first post, in case this thread attracts people who haven’t started watching yet.

We’ve watched two episodes so far, and we both think its really damn good. I’ve always loved Laura Linney, and it’s great to see Bateman get a dramatic role that he can sink his teeth into.

It’s clearly an attempt to attract the sort of person who watches shows like Breaking Bad, with a mixture of drama, thriller, crime, and some dark humor. The performances have all been excellent so far, and I’m looking forward to seeing where it goes. I also think the choice of location is pretty cool.

Anyone else started watching yet? Whaddayathink?

I just binge-watched it all today…I really liked the Ruth character the best and Laura Linney is great in everything.

Haven’t watched it yet. The visuals alone make it seem worth watching. Glad to hear it’s also got a good story line.

Netflix emailed me about this show, and it looks promising; it’s on my “to watch” list when I have time for it.

Not 2 minutes ago my son came out of his room for breakfast and said he started watching a new show on Netflix with Jason Bateman… He compared it to Breaking Bad and highly recommends it. Sounds like a good show.

Five eps in, my two-word summary would be Breaking Meh. Not bad, not great. Seems to be following a now-familiar formula while relying heavily on the setting, which gives the producers a tableau to alternately defy and reinforce stereotypes about backwoods folk.

Jason Bateman and Laura Linney are great and make it worth watching, IMO. The kinky-haired girl is fine but I’m not fully buying her as a ballbusting would-be crime boss.

I think that’s a good description, even based just on the two episodes i’ve seen so far.

Good vehicle for Bateman. He directed about half of the 10 episode season. The actress that plays Ruth, played Kimmy on The Americans. Good ending. I hope it gets picked up for a second season. Darlene Snell is evil incarnate.

I’m 2 episodes in and like it well enough to keep going. My wife would be fine throwing it on the scrap heap, but she never got into Breaking Bad, either.

Started watching last night, through a few episodes so far.

I have the same complaint I have with breaking bad or weeds.

Don’t get into business with criminals, especially dangerous criminals, unless you are willing to kill in order to protect your money, your freedom, your life, or at least the life of your family (cheating wives do not count).
In breaking bad, when the crime boss was asking what to do with the wife, walter should have replied, “Try to make it look like an accident.”

In this, when Dell asked what he should do with the wife, Marty should have replied, “Does that $29,000 count towards what I owe you, or will you take that as a fee for disposing of her?”

Now, not saying that people should have this sort of attitude, but if you don’t, then you really should avoid getting caught up in criminal enterprises, no matter how profitable.

Just finished this, and here’s my impressions:

Overall I give it 7.5/10. Enjoyable, engaging, occasionally engrossing.

The Good: the entire cast overall, with special mention to Jason Bateman, Julia Garner (Ruth Langmore), Lisa Emery (Darlene Snell), and Peter Mullan (Jacob Snell). I had a bit of a hard time wrapping my mind around Jason Bateman in a serious, dramatic role, as 'til now I’ve always associated him with comedic ones. But he rose magnificently to the occasion.

His performance in earlier episodes comes across as emotionally detached, practically robotic, but as the series progresses, we see that Marty Byrde is trying desperately to keep the lid screwed on his increasingly frantic and desperate emotional state, while still maintaining the clear-minded, rational intellect necessary to accomplish the near impossible task before him, and save his family, and Jason Bateman nails it.

Julia Garner’s “Ruth Langmore” is, at first, a greedy, violently opportunistic piece of white-trash, and then morphs into a more complex, conflicted (emotionally, and in terms of motives, desires, and goals) character.

Lisa Emery’s and Peter Mullan’s “Darlene & Jacob Snell” are chillingly effective, practically picture-perfect poster-people for Faux Affably Evil and Soft-Spoken Sadists.
The Bad: isn’t really all that bad, IMO. “Fall” came way too early for Missouri; yes, we can get the occasional “early Fall” in mid/late September, but it’s very rare. More likely, any mid-September “cool spell” is quickly followed by a month-plus of “Indian Summer” through most of October and early November. The weather change depicted is more like going from Labor Day (late Summer, still hot as Hell) to late November or even early December (potentially chill and damp) in the space of a few weeks.

As far as money-laundering goes, I have only a Hollywood 101 idea of how it works, in theory, so I can’t (and won’t) comment on the realism of the financial shenanigans of Marty Byrde. From my perspective, the mechanisms/machinations of money laundering. as depicted, work well enough for the narrative to easily sustain my willing suspension of disbelief.
The Ugly: stereotypes exist for a reason, and here, they work for the narrative well enough, but still, the show is fraught with them, and they’re generally ugly. Fortunately, the various characters occasionally play against type just often enough to, (generally, somewhat) mitigate the damage. Still, it does bring the overall tone and quality of thew show down.

Tuck’s purchase of the rifle for Jonah was so misleading as to be blatant lie(s). No big-name retailer (the SuperMegaStore was clearly an expy of Wal-Mart) would risk the fines, the lawsuits, the law enforcement scrutiny (State and Federal), on an obviously iffy gun sale; they catch enough grief over completely legit ones as is.

The paperwork process is a bit more involved than was depicted, and a fully-automatic rifle cannot be purchased “over-the-counter” by just anyone who wanders in off of the street like that.

The price-point on even lower end fully-automatic firearms is so high (thank you, Hughes Amendment, “Firearm Owner’s Protection Act!”) that Jonah would literally have to be skimming thousands of dollars off of his Dad’s money laundering operation to even afford one, were he (or, more accurately, his adult proxy) even able to find one, and attempt to purchase it.

And the purchase process on fully-automatic firearms is considerably more involved than for ordinary (non-fully-automatic) firearms.

It’s already established that Buddy (Harris Yulin) has an extensive firearms collection, in an easily accessed, usually unlocked, glass-fronted gun cabinet; so why couldn’t Jonah have simply grabbed one of Buddy’s rifle’s or shotguns when he felt he needed it? Why did the producers have to insert a series of blatant lies with regards to firearms purchasing, when it wasn’t necessary to the narrative of the story?

Most likely because the writers were totally ignorant of the law and too lazy to look it up.

I’m 5 episodes in. Anyone else think Breaking Bad meets Bloodline? Walter White with water, boats, fishing, and tourists.

Bateman’s character is clearly an attempt at a Walter White clone, but it just isn’t working for me.

His intellectualizing his way out of trouble by talking to the bad guys (something that Walter was a master at) just falls flat.

It just didn’t seem believable when he talked that hick family into giving back millions of dollars. It also wasn’t believable when he convinced the murderous drug dealer to let him go to Ozark, and then the drug dealer decided to let him take millions of dollars with him.

In spite of all that, it’s entertaining and I’m continuing to watch.

I’m an episode and a half in. That half is telling, because I don’t think I would have stopped a stronger show to go do some home repair painting I’ve been putting off :wink:

I’ll give it a few more episodes to see if it hits its stride or the characters become more compelling. Pilots are always tricky, and some shows take a while to hit their mark.

But I’m not impressed so far. It feels like they’re trying to go for a Breaking Bad vibe (Mr. Chips to Scarface), but they start out with him being involved with washing money. So it’s more like Scarface to Scarface, a far less interesting arc. And I couldn’t tell how surprised Laura Linney’s character was. Either she was already in on it before the first episode or she reacted astonishingly well to what ought to be a pretty world shattering revelation. And Jason Bateman’s character has some emotional moments that seemed to be played for sympathy but otherwise is a completely unsympathetic character. They’re both horrible people. I hope they get caught, and the kids get sent to some less sociopathic family members.

I like a fair amount of Bateman’s work (the mostly straight man in Arrested Development), but I think he has a limited wheelhouse and probably doesn’t have the chops to pull this off, assuming they keep trying to pull off some sort of intense character arc. And Linney’s character just seems flatly written so far. Linney could pull off something more intense, but this character doesn’t seem well written.

So, we’ll see. Maybe they’ll fill in the backstory enough to make the character arcs more compelling. Maybe this show just suffers from having to do too much in the pilot to set things up. I’ll give it some more changes and will happily retract my initial impressions. But I’m not optimistic.

Just finished. Loved it, but the pilot has one huge plot hole in it.

Marty should have known better than to patronize drug boss guy (I forget his name).

I mean hell, Marty witnessed the dude that had his job before him (Marty) being choked out by the very guy he was patronizing!

Finished the season. I enjoyed it quite a bit, even if a lot of it was implausible. Especially that his 2010 or older Honda Odyssey blue books for $23k.

I just finished up the series. I enjoyed it overall, not quite as high quality of a rural-crime drama as Broadchurch, but it kept up an enjoyable suspense throughout with excellent acting.

The only sub-plot that didn’t fit for me was the FBI investigation. An extremely simplistic high-risk deep-cover seduction scheme to expose Marty that could have been shortcut with a simple cellphone tap or microphone in their home. It was stupid, but at least well-acted stupid.

Just finished bingine this. Excellent show! Some things that stretched belief, but still pretty engaging. The main cast is really good–Bateman, Linney, the ‘Langmore’ girl.

Having started this thread and watched two episodes right off, i then took some time to get through the rest of the season, due to work obligations and the presence of so many other shows i wanted to watch.

Finally finished the season, and my wife and i really enjoyed it, and are looking forward to the next one. It certainly has some moments that stretch one’s credulity to breaking point, but the general storyline is good, and the performances are uniformly excellent. I was sorry to see Del get his head blown away at the end of the season. I’ve always liked Esai Morales, and i was hoping to see more of him.

Don’t overlook the element blatantly stolen from Sons of Anarchy - the sociopath Federal agent willing (indeed eager) to break numerous laws and regulations in order to see justice done. It’s not enough that the guy just doesn’t like drug dealers and their money-men, he has to be hair-trigger prone to violence, be eager to manipulate witnesses in ways that would totally demolish the case in court if they ever came to light, and seemingly reports to absolutely nobody.