This may be something or nothing. Rumours are spreading that the video footage of some Palestinians celebrating on September 11th is in fact a decade old.
I would like to hear any facts & opinoins about this.
You can see an article about this here:
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=63288
For me, this site was very slow to load.
Eh, “rumors” are not “spreading”–it’s only one particular angry, paranoid person who happens to think this.
Toonerama, that link isn’t to an “article”, it’s to a message board, where the OP of the linked thread is saying that CNN is using old footage. There’s a difference between an “article” and a “thread”. And I notice that several people responding to the OP are saying basically the same thing I am–“um, no, not very likely…” And there are a number of calls in the thread for the OP to digitize his 1991 footage and post it, but so far he hasn’t.
And the thread is full of angry, ugly, hateful people, not an “article” at all. The OP says he’s from Brazil, and he closes his post with this:
If that’s your only source for this rumor… :rolleyes:
I have a lot of respect for CNN as a news-gathering organization, and a healthy suspicion of conspiracy theories (unlike half the posters in the linked thread). Why in the world would CNN want to rummage through the files to find some old video footage of Palestinians dancing to illustrate a story as emotionally loaded as this one? I never thought of them as the People magazine “let’s push America’s buttons” type. “Any footage at all will do, because we know it happened so it doesn’t matter how old it is…”
That doesn’t sound right.
And consider the consequences when (not “if”) they’re caught. “CNN fakes Palestinians dancing in the streets, celebrating America’s downfall”. Because without the actual video of the woman in the coke bottle glasses, there’s really no story, is there? It’s all in the images.
Have they ever done this before? Usually if they’re going to use old footage, it says “File” on the bottom.
Hey Duck? I’m not arguing with your conclusion–there’s no basis to think that CNN used old footage–but aside from the obviously subjective “demolished” and “quickly made things worse,” with what stated facts in the passage you quoted do you take issue? (All right, the last clause of that message is debatable at best, as well–not to mention unquestionably tasteless.)
The question of whether they used old footage is potentially answereable with facts, and so constitutes more of a general question than great debate. In fact there is already a GQ thread on the subject. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87075
Generally speaking, I’m not taking issue with any of the stated facts in the guy’s post, which are as follows:
–and–
It is a fact that the U.S. helped push through a number of coups during the 1960s and 1970s.
It is also a fact that some of our overseas policies have made us more hated than ever.
Those are the only two facts in his post, and I don’t quibble with them.
It is not a “fact” to state that “your current president quickly made things worse” by implementing certain American foreign policies such as the refusal to sign the Kyoto Protocol–it is an “opinion”.
It is not a “fact” to simply reel off a list of American foreign policies, like “Kyoto Protocol” and “Brazil’s National Debt” and “Colombia Plan” and “Israel” and “Northern Ireland”. Yes, they’re “facts”, in that they exist, but that’s all.
I included the quote to show, generally speaking, where he was coming from, namely a strong anti-American bias. He obviously has “issues” with America, and by extension, with the American media, and therefore his charges that CNN faked footage were already suspect.
Can this thread please be closed?
It smacks of drawn out moon landing conspiracy threads with hundreds of posts that go nowhere.
Perhaps a GQ?
Just my opinion, O great moderators!