Parenting Tips and Tricks I wished I'd learned earlier

Age doesn’t really matter. Kids understand very well a system of reward/punishment. Adoptamom_II’s system is heavy on positive reinforcement, consistent and very equitable. My memory’s a bit faulty, but I THINK she fosters kids, too, and her ideas are especially good ones for kids who’ve had a history of less-than-consistent parenting (not singling out the foster care system, either - I have a single child, biological, and my own parenting has been less-than-consistent at times!)

As I said, I’ve got an only child, so I don’t get to capitalize on sibling rivalry. It worked for my Mom though, when dealing with a two-year-old and an infant. She explained to the two-year-old that only babies wear diapers, and seeing that in action, he declared himself potty-trained.

I’ve had a policy that I would always pay for books. When we are out shopping and my son wants a CD or my daughter wants a pair of shoes, I consider lots of variables before saying yes or no. But if they want a book, even if money is very tight for me, I pay for the book.

Consistency. If your oldest child is caught stealing candy at a Drug Mart and you take turns beating him for half an hour and then ground him from TV, video games and going out with friends for an entire year, and then your youngest son is caught stealing lighters while skipping church from the same Drug Mart and you lecture him on why god doesn’t like that for 10 minutes and ground him for 2 weeks but relent after 4 days, then that isn’t being consistent.

Keep your word. If your oldest son spends almost a year doing odd jobs for people in the neighborhood (he doesn’t have an allowance and is too young to work) so that he can give you the money necessary for you to send away for a video game he wants (credit cards only says the form), then taking six months to actually bother to send away for the game and punishing him for asking about it is not keeping your word.

Respect them as people. If you are helping your oldest son to move and he says that he wants to keep all of this stuff here for his hobby, then throwing away all of that stuff ‘because you feel he doesnt really need it’ is not respecting him as a person.

Teach them about authority. If you make your oldest son babysit his 3 siblings every time you want to go out, but dont allow him to do or say anything to his siblings in the course of his duties, and then punish him when the siblings misbehave or when he gets mad and does something because your youngest son hit him with a baseball bat, then you aren’t teaching them about authority.

Teach them about money. If all 4 of your children have horrible monetary habits because you didn’t bother to show them anything about how to handle money, including getting mad at your oldest son for asking how to write checks on his first bank account and not caring when your other children stole from your oldest son when he got his first job, then you didn’t teach them about money.

I don’t have any kids.

The other thing that works is the unpalatable-choice strategy. Tell them they have their choice of two things: one is the thing you want them to do, and the other is something you know they’ll reject. Make item number two at least semi-plausible. Sophisticated as toddlers are, I’ve never known one to argue the fallacy of the excluded middle (though they often come up with a middle way on their own, for you to accept or reject according to circumstances).

But, let me guess, you were an older son and had to babysit your siblings? And got scolded when asking how to write checks? :slight_smile:

Get thee to a therapist, dude, before you do.

Been there, done that. Was told that my parents weren’t abusive (true), that they were just inexperienced as I was their first child, and so nothing they did is anyone’s fault and I should just get over it.

I didn’t even bother mentioning any of the religious stuff (I’m an athiest, they’re not).

Your kid takes off bibs? Get a cheap or old button-up onesie. Have her wear it backwards as a smock. More coverage than a bib and it cannot be pulled off.

Have a routine when it’s bed time. We have our daughter hug and kiss the same three stuffed animals at night. Then tell her “quiet, the dolls are sleeping!”. This has worked since we first put her in her nursery.

If they still cry when you leave the bedroom, set a timer for 5 minutes. 90% of the time, she’s done crying and sleeping at the end of those minutes.

YMMV, depending on the severity of the crying. We were fortunate that Anya’s always been a night sleeper. As an infant, we actually had to wake her for night feedings.

This one’s rare in Hawaii. If you’re in a restaurant and the child starts crying, take her away from the table so she doesn’t bother the other patrons.

Even rarer in Hawaii. If you’re carting a baby in a sleeping stroller to a movie, the baby is too young to be there.

Heh. Guess who came up to me with the sippy cup the kid was using today (not her bottle) before dinner and asked for “kih mik!” :smiley:

You’re obviously not over it. I think that you and your therapist were not a good match for each other. If you can, try to find another therapist, because you seem to be still hurting. You haven’t forgiven or forgotten, and you justifiably feel that you weren’t treated right. I’m not saying that you should forgive and forget, but it seems to me that your wounds are still raw and open, and maybe some competent therapy could help you close and heal the wounds.

Shrug. The chances of me having kids at this point are negligible. I get along with my parents the same way I get along with most of my family: in short, infrequent bursts. I’m different enough from most of my family that I just don’t see any benefit in this. My parents won’t admit to doing anything wrong, and refuse to see me as anything but a little boy. Changing things on my end isn’t going to produce much of a result.

It might not change the relationship, but it might help you, hotflungwok. I urge you to reconsider.

My variation on the sit-in-the-front issue is using odd and even numbered days. One’s name has six letters, the other 11. Six Letter Girl gets the primo seat on even days of the month, 11 Letter Boy gets it on odd. (Except the primo seat is the middle van seat next to the baby, rather than the front, since they’re both still too young to sit in the very front.)

Do you have a contingency plan for when Six Letter Girl realizes that there are 7-8 more odd-numbered days than even-numbered per year?

dunno, but I bet it was someone with a really smart and sneaky mom :wink:

This sitting in the front seat thing reminds me of when I tricked my brother rather deviously. We’re three years apart and so there was a time when only I was old enough to sit in the front seat. Then we devised the morning-afternoon system. But I said, thinking that he’d figure out that I’d tricked him, “Okay, I sit in the front if it’s between midnight and 3pm, and you can sit in the front from 3pm to midnight”. This meant that he got to sit in the front seat on the way home, but you can see that the time wasn’t split evenly and we didn’t have afternoon stuff that required a car.

I occasionally babysit for a very feral child who I really don’t like - she’s very poorly disciplined because she’s evil. She will push her mum, who is normally very calm, until she snaps. But she doesn’t feel disciplined; she laughs. EVIL. So I don’t feel guilty about manipulation; Georgia decides that she will not wear pants. Or any clothing for that matter.

Me: George, are you a big girl?
G: Yes.
Me: Oh…all the big girls I know wear pants. And clothing.

No one likes to be called a child, especially children. I’m also the only one who actually doesn’t take any crap from her; kids need boundaries and alot of parents I meet are trying too hard to be their child’s friend first.

Good disciplinary measures that my mum used were One kid does the top half of the dishwasher, the other does the bottom half. One kid feeds the cats, the other feeds the dogs. One vacuums, the other makes tea. My mother drinks a lot of tea.

Also, another good thing she did, money-wise, was put all my pocket money and a clothing allowance into a kid’s account with a key card when I was in year 7 (12 years old). I could do whatever I wanted with that money, it was for six months at a time. She still paid for my school stuff and if we went out shopping together, she paid for stuff. If I ran out of money before the end of the six months, she’d give me extra. I found that having my own cash made me feel more independant and the agreement we had was written in a ‘contract’ that basically stipulated how much cash I got and what it was for, and what she’d still pay for.

Her and my dad were also pretty big on books, like vetbridge, we had full wall height bookcases.

Also - siblings who live on the other side of the continent to each other and only see each other every few months are much less likely to fight :D. They also end up closer and more likely to confide in each other. My mum always said ‘Be nice to each other, one day you’ll be all the other one has to rely on when we die.’

Not having my brother arounds means I’m far less tolerant of people who are unkind to their younger siblings for no reason, other than ‘He’s just my younger bro, why should I care?’ than I was before, but even then, my brother and I have always been close. Unless the sibling in question is a heinous person (as my Dad’s sister is), I think it’s really important to have a good relationship with your siblings, especially when there’s only two of you.

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This is occasionally an issue, such as when the month ends on 31 and the next day is the first. But “them’s the breaks” is what we say. It’s not as big a deal as it once was anyway, and sometimes one will actually prefer to be in the Way Back, so they’ll switch of their own accord.

Who knew children needed so much management? :wink:

You should have met my daughter, who could have gone to law school for contract negotiations at 18 months.

She also never fell for reverse psychology.

We did the “mint seat” in the car. The person who got the worst seat got a mint to compensate (like a tic tac) - suddenly the unpopular seat was the popular seat and they were fighting over that. So I started to randomize it. Somedays there is a mint seat, sometimes there isn’t and its anyone’s guess where the mint seat is. And then they immediately stopped fighting over it in preference for them both getting mints. I explained to them that at any time I had power over what was the good seat. They seemed to get that.

(Leave the house promptly, get yourself buckled in, don’t hit your sibling, don’t fight over the seat - Mom hands out Altoids).

They have this on a Jif commerical now in regard to a piece peanut-buttered bread. It was actually an example used in game theory class in grad school!

'Tis not a parenting tip, but an uncling tip: Number One Nephew (~4) has every toy known to God and man, and is not fond of picking them up. In fact, he’ll actively undo any work by others to pick them up. But he’s very persnickety about things – blocks have to be stacked with the picture sides matching and in numerical or alphabetical order, toys have to be stored in their correct boxes that have to be lined up according to some arcane formula that only he knows, etc.

(apparently, another engineer in the family)

He and I were playing a while back, while everyone else was off with Number Two Nephew. Noting the many legos, blocks, and Thomases the Train scattered hither and yon, I started tidying up. He started untidying up.

So instead I put everything away in the wrong storage container. He spent the rest of playtime “correcting” me – by putting everything away where it should be. Now, when I want him to pick up, I tell him that I’ve forgotten where his barn animal set goes, and he’ll happily instruct and demonstrate how to put it away.

My brother and SiL are mystified as to how the clean playroom occurred. I might tell them the secret, but we’ll see…

I don’t have children, but I work in an office where people bring their children. I’m amazed at parents who haven’t told their chldren about “indoor voices” and “who is in charge.” The first one is easy (WE ARE NOT OUTSIDE! WE ARE INSIDE! AND WE USE OUR “inside voices”).

The second one “This is my office. I am in charge here. No, you are a child, and children are never in charge of an office” can be harder.