Ah. Didn’t see that link (or read the article, it being People, don’tcha know). I agree that splitting hairs (over how inaccurate the term “draft dodger” is when applied to the Reverend Mr. Robertson) is kinda vapid. Perhaps some other term could be applied to someone who falsely claims combat veteran status.
It’s very easy to condemn him, however, without looking like a moron. He’s got a very long charge sheet (metaphorically speaking) to justify that.
If that same person took a public stand against the war, sure. But to tacitly support the war, and get out of duty only so someone else could fill it for you, then no.
Have said that, I don’t know having someone pull strings to get into a non-dangerous job is really shameful. The judgment would be if he later called that a combat role.
My point is: Robertson’s father obviously had the resources and influence to keep his son out of combat. (as a Senator, so did Al Gore’s father) Most people who go to war are working to middle class. Their parents don’t have the $ or influence to effect where their child goes.
The difference is that Clinton did not then go around saying he was a “combat veteran.”
He’s had even lower moments than that - commiserating with Jerry Falwell about how much America deserved 9/11 was one, but arguably his lowest moment of all was when he publicly said that black people should not be given the right to vote in South Africa.
Robertson would liken homosexuality to murder or adultery: a behavior a person makes a conscious decision to engage in, not a biological inclination and identity. From that point of view he is being reasonable. The problem of course is that he’s a hateful nitwit who’s so full of shit he cannot possibly have an asshole.
My dad shares first and last names with Pat Robertson’s brother.
At least when I was a kid, he lived in the same state that we did.
So we would often end up with his mail. People would sometimes call our house asking for him (we would know they had the wrong guy because everyone who knows my dad calls him by his nickname).
Once we got an invitation to a family reunion in Scotland. My sister and I found it hilarious. We wanted to show up and ruin the get-together by presenting ourselves as the family’s secret black relatives. Pat Robertson might have choked on a chicken bone from the shock. Damn us for being so reasonable.
Did he ever get a check? Tell me that he got a check…
I know; his brother, not him. Still, a man can fantasize…
I dearly wanted to make the joke, but you made it in spades, so to speak. 
Robertson is a dick. No doubt about it.
But I don’t see anything terribly wrong with the interview posted in the OP. Nor is it relevant to the subject matter in the OP.
Robertson claims God speaks to him, when it is obvious from his previous statements this is not true. He insults my religion. That is my core point about this nasty little man. Claiming to have the ALmighty’s private phone number and then claiming God will punish America for political policies in beneath contempt.
It’s not reasonable to say that God is punishing even homophobes because of gay people. “I will not destroy it if there are even 10 good men,” God says about Sodom and Gomorrah. So even if he thinks he’s dealing with the God of the Old Testament–he’s wrong by his own religion.
And if he’s such a man of God, why isn’t he interceding like Abraham, or even Moses? Why does he seem to get joy at other people’s suffering?
Very well said. May I add,
“The smiling face of hate, evil and fear.”
How did Americans become so afraid of everything?
9/11. It changed everything, man. Everything!!!:eek::eek::eek:
It did not change me. (Well, I do pay more attention to fire drills now.)
Maybe he’s trying to appeal to a gay audience by trying to look like that.
You can’t be pro jobs and anti business.
Republicans consider Democrats to be anti business. Now indeed, Democratic politicians do things the business interests do not like. They raise the minimum wage. They increase taxes and regulations on businesses.
Nevertheless, from the administration of Lyndon Johnson to that of George W. Bush there has always been more job creation under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/
Can you tell me when he said this? I’d like to be able to quote it in hard copy, I know someone who is a Robertson fan, and I’d like to mess with their head.
nm
Here it is on wikiquote (footnote leads to dead link).
Here it is on conservapedia. He is quoted as saying that on the 700 Club on March 18, 1982. Good luck finding an archived clip.
Here’s the text of the quote:
Not quite “Never give black South Africans the franchise,” but troubling.