Repeat that to yourself. Until it makes sense. Then a lot of things might make sense.
Sounds about right. Google brings up some other definitions too:
A couple of them seem contradictory. If some passing scholar of the language could point to the most accepted definition, we might just be lucky enough to have a round of “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means”, which would be peachy keen.
What kind of buildings do you light a bonfire in?
Would an atheist or a Unitarian be able to be a dhimmi? What about a Jainist or a Buddhist? A Wiccan? A Scientologist?
What status would Pastafarians or worshippers of the Invisible Pink Unicorn be relegated to?
Speaking of Pastafarians, what about Rastafarians? Hopi kachina dancers?
Okay, I’ll stop now.
Jascha Kessler, Professor of English & Modern Literature at UCLA has this to say about the coming dhimmitude of Europe:
Now that Khomeini is buried, his successors have declared the hunt off, although leading clerics assert it impossible to nullify that dead hand’s ruling; Rushdie may walk abroad from this or that “safe house,” but British Airways knew better: they would not have him as a passenger on any plane they flew. Indeed, the fatwa remains in effect, reiterated in 1999. We watched our American publishers and writers recoil in horror from that eruption of medieval, rather obscurantist wrath, as though surprised to find that more than 200 years after the French Revolution the Enlightenment has yet to have been imagined in a Middle East whose masses, as in Algeria, vote not for trade unions but for Islam. Whatever that Islam is, it certainly is not whatever little we know or understand of Islam, though in Libya its dictator Moammar Khadaffi now asserts: Europe and the United States must disappear!
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It has been rather stupid for Western policy-makers to pay the least attention to those who pretend to offer hope for a moderate let alone democratic Islam. Apologists for Islam, a world-wide faith that cannot bear the least scrutiny of objective, historical inquiry, let alone skeptical reason, may pretend it is possible that it might come to mean well, even if its principal financiers today sanction the fundamentalists’ iconoclastic destruction of nearly every shrine and monument built over the many centuries to mark the vicissitudes of The Prophet, his family, and Islam’s martyrs in Arabia. Nevertheless, they should be warned that, like the middle-class Londoners in Piccadilly Square, those believers who burned our books, will if given any opportunity to apply Sharia law also burn our bodies, as 9/11 demonstrated most horribly.
http://www.calitreview.com/Essays/roses_5023.htm
I’m sorry, but you are either too stupid to see what’s going on in Europe, too stubborn to say you were wrong [as I was - not all that long ago] or too filled with shame over the war in Iraq.
After all: Iraqi people are muslim, right? So they must be good.
Listen, I can understand all that.
I FELT THE SAME WAY.
Untill I realized: No. Being opposed to a very conservative, homophobic, xenophobic, female-oppressing regime/religion like Islam has nothing to do with rascism or bigotry.
It has to do with common sense and the guts to say you were wrong.
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Funny, I was in the Netherlands last weekend, and saw absolutely no evidence of this Islamicisation that gum keeps banging on about. I saw a few women wearing hijab, as I do in good old secular/Christian England, but that was about it. What I mainly saw was drunk white Dutch people having a good time at Koninginnedag and nary a rabid mullah to be seen condeming them. I guess I too must be too stupid to see what’s going on.
The Islamification of Europe.
To put this in perspective.
ALBANIA - Total population: 3.1 million, Muslim population: 2.2 million (70%)
AUSTRIA - Total population: 8.2 million, Muslim population: 339,000 (4.1%)
BELGIUM - Total population: 10.3 million, Muslim population: 0.4 million (4%)
BOSNIA-HERCEGOVINA - Total population: 3.8 million, Muslim population: 1.5 million (40%)
DENMARK - Total population: 5.4 million, Muslim population: 270,000 (5%)
FRANCE - Total population: 62.3 million, Muslim population: Five to six million (8-9.6%)
GERMANY - Total population: 82.5 million, Muslim population: 3 million (3.6%)
ITALY - Total population: 58.4 million, Muslim population: 825,000 (1.4%)
MACEDONIA - Total population: 2.1 million, Muslim population: 630,000 (30%)
NETHERLANDS - Total population: 16.3 million, Muslim population: 945,000 (5.8%)
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO (WITH KOSOVO) - Total population: 10.8 million (including Kosovo); 8.1 million (excluding Kosovo)
Muslim population: Serbia and Montenegro - 405,000 (5%); Kosovo - about 1.8 million (90%)
SPAIN - Total population: 43.1 million, Muslim population: 1 million (2.3%)
SWEDEN - Total population: 9 million, Muslim population: 300,000 (3%)
SWITZERLAND - Total population: 7.4 million, Muslim population: 310,800 (4.2%)
TURKEY - Total population: 68.7 million, Muslim population: 68 million (99%)
UNITED KINGDOM - Total population: 58.8 million, Muslim population: 1.6 million (2.8%)
Excluding Turkey for the moment I make that :-
Total population: 381,500,000, Muslim population: 21,524,800 (5.6%).
As Turkey is already a Muslim nation, albeit a secular one, you can’t really talk of Islamification of it.
But to include Turkey :-
Total population: 450,200,000, Muslim population: 89,524,800 (19.9%).
How about this, moron: I know for a fact that “The Catholic Church is not a Democracy.” Ask any member of the clergy. Ask any parishoner. Ask any ex-Catholic. The congregation has no say in this matter. The bishop has decided.
So any Catholic is familiar with this phrase. And you’re not. You’re pissed about this and you’re not even a fucking Catholic. How about you use your own co-religionists in your personal fucking crusade?
That’s interesting. Tell me, what exactly was it that turned you into a bigot? What was your, if you’ll excuse the term, “Road to Damascus” moment? You claim you weren’t always this way, so when did you become so spectacularly ugly?
Theo van Gogh.
The following are excerpts from a speech by Libyan leader Mu’ammar Al-Qadhafi, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on April 10, 2006:
"We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe - without swords, without guns, without conquests. The fifty million Muslims of Europe will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.
“Allah mobilizes the Muslim nation of Turkey, and adds it to the European Union.”
“That’s another 50 million Muslims. There will be 100 million Muslims in Europe. Albania, which is a Muslim country, has already entered the E.U.”
“Bosnia, which is a Muslim country, has already entered the E.U. Fifty percent of its citizens are Muslims.”
“Europe is in a predicament, and so is America. They should agree to become Islamic in the course of time, or else declare war on the Muslims.”
Well, hey, you should have posted that sooner. If Momo says it, you know it must be true! :rolleyes:
Here’s a newsflash, gum. You didn’t get any smarter when you became a bigot. You started out dumb, and just got dumber.
Nice cite, dhummy. Exactly 3 of those words came from an actual bishop. The rest were provided for them by the same dhimmwit who says the illegals are trying to “pressurize the government.”
I’m curious about something. Who in this thread is or has ever been a Catholic? Besides me.
If you took the trouble to read - or Google for - Khadaffi’s remarks, said on Al Jazeera, you’d find other sources.
[What’s wrong with MOMO? Anyone?]
And calling me a bigot over and over again, sure is a sign of intelligent thinking!
I think you’re scared.
Too scared to admit the truth.
Yellow-bellied, is the term, I believe?
It’s time to face some unpleasant facts, dearie. Unless you look good in a turban. 
It’s not supposed to be. It’s just abuse. There’s no point in arguing with filth like you. Racists can’t be reasoned with. The only way to treat with people like you is with scorn and derision. You are the scum of the human race, gum, and I’d like nothing so much for you and Rune to slither back under whatever rock spawned you and spare these boards from your foul stench.
I’m not the one spending my days cowering under my bed in fear of being over run by hordes of dusky Arabs.
I suspect I’d not be half as fetching as you would be in a hood.
Yes, we have to kill then all. Men, women, old ones, babies, all of them. You have to sever the line, just like you do with werewolves. :wally
Pshaw! Next you’re gonna try to tell me that the Pope worships the same God as my Irish Catholic grandfather. All I hear is “Deus” this and “Dei” that. Frickin’ pagan.
It’s the ROMAN Catholic church, you evil Irish heretic
I’ve read that Mohammed himself offered the use of his mosque to a group of Christians, explaining to them that it was a place consecrated to God.
Bolding mine. And this singles out Islam from Christianity how ? Or every other religion ?
Oh, and Christian fundamentalists have never hesitated to burn books and destroy the holy sites of other religions. What makes Islam so special that it will lay waste to everything in countries where they are the minority ?