Penis identification. No, really.

Hello Everyone,

I heard someone talking about the Netflix Epstein series and they mentioned that his accusers/ victims all described his Little Epstein being “egg shaped”, bigger at base and getting thinner at the end I guess.

So let’s say that multiple women were assaulted by an unknown assailant in the dark and the only common identifying characteristic was a Humpty Dumpty like penis. Let’s assume this is only noticeable on an erect member. If the police have a possible suspect can that suspect be forced to stimulate himself so they can put his member in some sort of penis lineup? Or can the police have a doctor administer a drug to achieve the same effect?

I know that the police can force a suspect to be photographed in the nude (Michael Jackson, for example) via court order. Whether they can compel the suspect to become erect I do not know. What if the suspect is impotent and cant become erect?

Where the hell do you buy your eggs?

Something tells me pumping prisoners full of drugs violates the Hippocratic oath (and where would this doctor be coming from, anyway?), and more generally sexually assaulting suspects is also not a legitimate way of obtaining evidence.

Now there was a story a few years ago alleging the exact scenario you describe, but it’s not clear this was real news and not a Law & Order: SVU script.

I should say, sexual assault by police is, unfortunately, a not-unheard-of depravation, but it does not make it more legitimate than any other kind of abuse.

The Court of Appeals ruled that the police action was unconstitutional.

It wouldn’t surprise me if, in this type of case, there were other people, beyond the victims, that have been intimate with the person, can accurately ID the person AND are willing to do so under oath.

For example, in the OPs example, maybe the suspect has a former or current sexual partner that can confirm or deny it. How we could confirm what they said is true, I don’t know.

I suppose in some of these cases, if they are totally innocent and everything hinges on this one piece of evidence, the lawyer might be able to set up a deal where their client will voluntarily get an erection and agree to have it photographed or directly viewed by [someone? who?]. In exchange, if they decide he’s not the suspect, they’ll clear his name.

First of all apologies to all victims of abuse. But this kind of identification is a disservice to the victims because it may lead the wrong guy getting caught while the perp is still out there abusing other victims.

Even things like bite marks are not very scientific methods of identification. :

Cite 1: Forensic bitemark identification: weak foundations, exaggerated claims | Journal of Law and the Biosciences | Oxford Academic

Cite 2: Bite Mark Evidence | California Innocence Project

The added trauma of identification of penis from a lineup is really punishment for the abused and serves no real purpose.

It’s not like the victim will be picking the guy out of a lineup. Perhaps the same report from multiple victims could be used as evidence if one of them can positively identify the perpetrator with other means, but on it’s own it’s worthless, and even in that context it’s questionable. Even fingerprints are questionable these days, an artists dick pic rendering will not be worth much.

Hire a priest. “The power of Christ compels you to become erect.”

Im enjoying this post on more than one level. :slight_smile:

While the case mentioned was decided against the police, how much of that was the fact that the suspect in that case was a minor? Would the same decision be applicable against an adult suspect?

I don’t understand your confusion. Chicken eggs normally have a thinner end a thicker, rounded base end.

Starting with a bigger base and “getting” thinner sounds more like a carrot, to me. Getting thicker, reaching maximum thickness around the middle, and getting thinner again sounds more like a description of an egg. But of course I was only funnin’. It wasn’t a critique meant to be taken too seriously.

I’ve seen many penises, both flaccid and erect. I have NEVER seen one egg-shaped.

I wonder if there was a bad reaction to an attempted… enhancement.

No, that gets you a bagel dog.

Similarly, I’ve seen many eggs, both soft-boiled and hard-boiled. I have NEVER seen one penis-shaped.
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Soft-boiled and hard-boiled won’t get you there.

Huh. Part of the description says “You can make the most hilarious eggs and much more”. Maybe I lack imagination, but I’m not sure what more you can do with that.