Ooooohhh, you were talking about some far-flung future. I thought you were referring to Pennsylvania right now. Sorry, I misunderstood.
Still, while I understand your reluctance to blindly trust, I still don’t know if it’s the right thing to do (vis a vis trying to argue your position) to blindly ASSUME that the concerted conspiracy is in place. But that’s another thread.
Fox News has it as 54% to 46% Clinton…but they think it might come up a touch for Obama. I just thought I’d toss in the Diebold vote to compare and contrast (besides, I was flipping through the channels on the TV in my hotel room, and this is one of the few channels that I get in this fly spec town).
-XT
Way to go Pennsylvania. Now Hillary can deny reality a little longer and stay in the race for another month, by arguing that only she can win the key battleground states like Ohio and Pennsylvania against Grandpa McCain.
Looking at the exit polls makes me wonder why Pennsylvania is so…old. It is second after Florida. Florida I understand. Is it just a lack of economic opportunities, so young mobile folk move away? Or is it somehow particularly attractive to the elderly?
She’s taking this to the convention if she feels like taking this to the convention.
But you remember what happened after she won Ohio by 10%. One day’s big splash, then the storyline was how she was way behind on delegates, and Ohio just kept her head above water so she could try again in PA.
Same thing if she wins by 10-12 in PA, except that there’s nowhere left for her to win a big chunk of delegates.
Steel went bust. Coal mining went bust. Everyone moved away, except for the old people who weren’t as mobile. Not to mention the general flight path of the Northeast into sunnier skies, like California.
It’s that the young people move away, but the old can’t really afford to.
1.15M votes in, and still 54-46. Sweet.
CRAP!!!
Another week of Hillary’s cackle. Sigh.
Oh well. Congrats to the Clinton supporters.
It’s not going to be double digits. Single digits is a loss.
What do you mean he “lied about the gun thing?” Cite? What did he lie about?
CNN’s showing Clinton over Obama 55% to 45% at the moment. Leaper, here in Pittsburgh, the gentleman and I both voted on electronic, paperless machines in two different precincts. They’ve used them for a few elections now. The gentleman actually didn’t make up his mind until the last minute.
The evening local news also had said some people were apparently disenfranchised. I know when I was voting a man came in whose name couldn’t be found on the list of registered voters. The person in charge of that polling place said to give him a provisional ballot. If there’s more news about people being disenfrachised in tomorrow’s newspaper, I’ll let you know and give you a link if I can.
By the way, I got a kick out of the footage showing where Obama ate breakfast this morning. I’ve eaten in that restaurant and they do have good pancakes.
Cautious cheering from up here in the Great White North.
I have to manhandle the remote away from mr. vison - he’s a hockey fan - but it looks like 46 Obama 54 Clinton, which is 8 points, not double digits.
cautious “yay” Obama
Not if the Supers give Obama the 2025 he needs before it starts. I think some Party bigwigs like Donna Brazil have been hinting that they’ll do.
But the supers don’t get to vote until the convention. All they can do now is declare their allegiance. She will just argue that their allegiance might shift once they realize Obama plans to enslave the white race.
Heheh. i wouldn’t put it past her to attempt something like that. What the heck? She has nothing to lose at this point.
Well, in base-10 notation, at least. In binary, I’d put Hillary’s margin of victory anywhere from 110-1110%. Definitely single digits in hex, though.
1.43M votes in, and still 54-46.
That’s close enough, with enough votes in, that it shouldn’t turn into a rout later. Time for bed. 
OK Pennsylvanians, your 15 minutes of fame are up. I’m thinking the margin is going to be anywhere from 6-10% when we’re done. A great victory for Clinton, but Wednesday morning we’ll look at the delegate counts and the path to victory for Hillary will not be any less steep. It’s hard to beat the machine in a state like PA, we’ll need Rendell on our side in November so give them their due, he pulled it out for Hillary tonight. But now she may finally be out of home states so where she goes from here, I don’t know. Looks like Indiana is the last state truly in play.
No it’s not. She may spin it that way, but six weeks ago she had a 20+% margin on Obama. For it to go to single digits tonight is an effective LOSS for her, since her delegate margin is going to be insignificant.
For tonight it is a big victory, you have to give them their due. Even though the demographics and the machine were in her favor, the bottom line is Obama had a terrible two weeks and could not close the deal. A month ago, Obama would have gladly taken an 8 point loss. Two weeks ago, the margin was closing and he should have put her away.