Be a lumberjack, of course! Just ask Michael Palin.
manly men!
The kinds of people who espouse these views are usually sexually frustrated (white) men who can’t understand or deal with the sense of inadequacy and failure that comes from feeling like your life hasn’t taken off the way you thought it would. It really is important to take into consideration the motivation and psychology of the kinds of people who espouse these ideas. what I am saying is that if the speaker had a decent job, respect and was desirable to women then he probably wouldn’t have this confusing anger inside of him which he channels into these theories about alpha males.
On the subject of doemstication, yes humans are domesticated and its great. It comes from language. Supposedly humans are one of the more egalitarian primate species, and the reason is because we have language. When we developed things like language, tool making, the ability to reason, etc. it meant that if one person tried to be an abusive alpha male, all the other humans would plot together so they could kill him. Either in his sleep, or in a ‘hunting accident’, or something else. In gorillas the strongest gorilla takes over the group. In humans if one human tries to take over a tribe and be an asshole to everyone, they get stabbed to death when they aren’t expecting it and this created evolutionary selection pressure for domestication. Human physiology shows that we have traits associated with juvenile primates due to this self-domestication.
Domestication brings with it better brains and less aggression. I think domestication is great. The person who posted this video seems to feel domestication means you get exploited by the ownership class and don’t fight back, but I don’t see a connection to that. Domestication means you can work as part of a group without aggression or violence. Ironically the people who feel left behind and left out of the economic and mating game, and who respond by subscribing to theories of alpha males and why aggression is great are the ones who are not dealing with the negatives of domestication properly. People like that usually end up supporting oligarchs and plutocrats because those people know how to use race, gender and other tools to divide and conquer people.
oh i just seen it on my news feed and wanted to confirm my opinion that he was fulla shit
The hilarity of this idea of “manliness” is that one of the girls I lusted after in my youth later became (by all accounts a very good) fireman. My wife brought more tools and power tools into our marriage than I did, and uses them more often than I under normal circumstances. Still, many unpleasant jobs will fall to me (for instance, dispatching pests or working on anything electric), even though my wife is completely capable of those things if she put her mind to it (I am pretty confident she could build a thermonuclear weapon if she really devoted herself to it).
How am I less or more “manly” or macho than these ladies? Meh, I spit on the entire concept.
I fart in its general direction.
Well, yeah, if I were French.
So he’s a white person who thinks black kids are older than they are. That’s very common among white people.
So basically he advances, knowingly or unknowingly, intentionally or otherwise, a view that is not only pseudoscientific, but racist?
It’s called multitasking. /s
You’re illustrating nicely what I would think of as actual manliness: sufficient confidence in yourself to not feel threatened about it by the abilities of other people.
(Of course, that’s also part of what I’d think of as actual womanliness or enbyness, for that matter. Probably ‘actual adulthood’ is a better term. I very much doubt that the person cited in the OP is thinking in anything resembling the same manner. If, that is, they’re thinking at all.)
Mensch actually is applicable - not gender specific, just a good person.
Yes, a person of any gender can be a mensch.
Also, a man (or anybody else) can be a mensch even if not particularly capable physically.
As my Jewish wife explained to me “mensch” is much more than a good person. A mensch is a person of unimpeachable integrity; a mensch is a person that will almost certainly carry a reputation of being widely admired and looked up to. Very few people are mensches, it’s not a word one should use lightly.
IMHO it was controlling fire what started the human domestication process.
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All hail Prometheus!
And Hermes is very, very late. (Why I do feel that I ran into a Futurama rerun?)
To me camping is an extension of being home without being there. In a few weeks my wife and I are off on a 6 week trek to South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho. We are towing our travel trailer and have some very specific needs at our camping locations. The first thing our camping locations must have is full hookups, water, electricity and sewer. Almost as important is wifi, we have to keep in touch with some folks on a daily basis, my wife’s elderly parents and her brother that has significant health issues. If the campground has cable TV that would be a plus but we can survive with streaming over the wifi. But we will be crammed into a 22 foot long abode, no computers, and spending much more time outside than we do when at home. I have also booked a day of fishing on the Yellowstone River, that will be about as closing to roughing it as it will get for me. I think about all the camping trips I took while in the Boy Scouts and realize this is nothing like that. But I’m 66 years old, not 17, so this is as much “roughing it” as I want to do at my age.
I hear you. It sounds like you are bringing all the comforts of home with you. That’s the way to do it.
It’s very domesticated.
But that’s not something that is unique to men.
In fact, I don’t think the OP was specific to men either. The theory seems to be that people in general are no longer fully developing as adults physiologically because modern society is too soft. As if everyone back in the day looked like Spartans or Vikings.
Which I know, as you’ll see in the rest of my post following the portion which you quoted.
“Domestication” here is being used as a pejorative to claim that most modern people are part of an underclass that has little agency of their own and are kept servile through comfort and disinformation.
There are several similar philosophies I want to draw attention to:
President Theodore Roosevelt’s “speak softly and carry a big stick” foreign policy
Nietzsche’s philosophy on “master / slave morality”
Psychologist and internet personality Jordan Peterson’s theory on “men need to be dangerous”
Chris Kyle’s Dad’s “Wolves, sheep, and sheep dogs” speech to his son in American Sniper
The “dicks, pussies, and assholes” monologue from Team America: World Police
The common theme here is basically might might not equal right, but you can’t really be “right” unless you have some might to back it up. If you don’t have the power to effect change, then you aren’t virtuous. You’re just a victim - an impotent sheep, pussy, or slave.
Now the danger with this sort of thinking is that it can effectively become “might makes right”. Those with power often misuse it to their own ends. One of those misuses, historically, has been to find people who are disenfranchised, give them means of violence, and then set them in motion against some group you’ve identified as the source of their disenfranchisement.