People who cry Racism

Why do you keep confusing Satyricon with lsura? Is it because she’s white? :wink:

The posters have been discussing being falsely accused of racism. Don’t you see how annoying and deprimental this is? I have often heard black people complaining about racism that I personally don’t see. For every legitimate complaint they might have regarding discrimation, they have a thousand other complaints that have nothing to do with the color of their skin, but which they ascribe to racism nonetheless. I think that if blacks would realize that they are in most cases being judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, they would be a lot better off. They then might realizing that if someone calls them lazy, uneducated, irresponsible, anti-social, irrational, hypersensitive and delusional, the reason for that might be that they actually are all of these things and the color of their skin isn’t the reason someone made these observations about them. And before someone tells me that I am a racist, I realize that a lot of blacks don’t fit the description in the preceding sentence. However, based upon my personal observations, such people do make up a significant percentage of the black population. These are the people that you should have an issue with, pizzabrat, not the white folk who are annoyed by people like this tossing out a serious accusation.

And some people have even thinner skins, ha ha, than that.

You say, “Those invoices have to be in the mail by noon tomorrow”. They hear, “You’re lazy.” You say, “This job requires a Ph.D.” They hear, “You’re uneducated.” "You say, “We need you to smile more.” They hear, “You’re anti-social.” And so on. (Of course, that means the charges of being delusional would be accurate…)

Looking at the examples provided in the thread, I can understand slight annoyance, i.e., no more annoyance than at any other impotent insult, but I can’t understand depriment. Again, if you’re directly responisble for somebody else not getting their way, and they call you racist because of it, you’re not being “accused of racism”, you’re just being insulted. If somebody called you a “puppy rapist” because you took the parking spot they wanted, wouldn’t you find it silly to pout at that “accusation”? I take issue with those who use “racist” as a general insult, but I also take issue with those who give them power by helping to conflate the whole situation into a Big Deal, as if we don’t have enough real racial issues. And it’s interesting that you thought you belonged in this thread, as if you could every be falsley accused of racism.

What state are you in Duffer? Most concealed permits I have come across exclude licensed premises from their coverage.

And as to your ice tea? 4 spirits only? Though I guess you might not put a full shot of triple sec in… I was always under the assumption a LIIT was 5 whites…

That was meant as a compliment, not an insult.

Apology accepted, whoever insulted me (I’m too lazy to look up your name, not that I care). That’s the last time I compliment you.

Calling someone a ngger, spc, kke, rghd, cnt, pdqu*cker, etc. is also often a last ditch effort to hurt someone’s feelings. Unfortunately, it’s also reflective of a certain social reality - the fact that there’s racism in the world. And this is true whether the person using the slur personally harbors bigoted feelings or not.

This is a thread with stories about people who unfairly accuse others of racism. If your opinion is that no significant trend is in evidence here, that these things are isolated incidents that have nothing to do with anything, that’s fine, you could be right or you could be wrong, I don’t know.

But suppose you were fighting over a parking space, and the other guy shouted an offensive racial slur at you. Would you object to “extrapolat[ing] some grand macrocosmic analysis about race…” based on that? What if I said “Hello, pizzabrat, he called you a ‘smelly d*rkie’ as an insult, not as a genuine character evaluation! Just take it for exactly what it is - a last ditch effort to hurt your feelings!” In either case, I wouldn’t condemn an entire society based on such anecdotes, but I wouldn’t insist that they happen in a vaccuum either.

I’m not familiar with this word “depriment” that you and Creative Munster seem to be so fond of (I kid, I’m a kidder :smiley: ), but maybe I can help you understand how hurtful this can be. Imagine that someone is accusing you of playing ‘victim’ because of your race to gain an unfair advantage over someone else in some kind of dispute. It’s just a pathetic, desperate ploy to score some points for the opposing side. But it would still make you really mad, right?

If I were joining in some morose campfire discussion, shaking my head and solemnly sighing “That’s the world we live in,” all over some cheap racial slur thrown at me after I already got my way - yes, I would expect to be slapped back into reality by your statement. If the slur was accompanied by a slam to the side of a police car and a cuffing, or a trip to detention at a London airport, I might expect a bit more sympathy.

I can hardly even formulate that situation in my mind. I don’t think I ever play victim to my advantage in a dispute, so if such an accusation comes out of nowhere, I’d be more confused than angry. Plus, I’m not familiar with using that as just an insult, so I’d think they were being serious. “Racist” has been thrown around enough to recognize when it’s just an insult.

Is it fair to say that for someone to tell me that a comment or action is “a black thing that you just wouldn’t understand” is actually promoting racism? The reason I ask this is that I ran into a situation last year where an intern at the place I was working made a comment about another co-worker. The co-worker in question, who is white, had had cornrows put in her hair. They looked great on her, but apparently offended our intern, who is African-American. She commented very loudly to the lady who worked in the mailroom (also African-American) that “that skinny white bitch just wants to be black.” Since a lot of people used to gather at my desk, and I was on good terms with both women, I felt comfortable enough to ask them what they meant. When I asked, they both told me cornrows were meant to be a “black thing that you just wouldn’t understand,” I was really confused and kind of offended. I also felt that to define something as broad as hairstyle choice as “a black thing” seemed pretty harsh and racist in and of itself, and that to tell anyone that they wouldn’t understand something because it’s a black thing is pretty rude.

Has anyone ever gotten a similar response to a question? Did you think it was rude, too? Also, are there things that should be considered “a black thing” or “a white thing?”

You don’t have to have ever actually done it, that’s the point of it being a false accusation. You’re seriously telling me that it wouldn’t make you mad, even if the accusation were leveled in front of other people, some of whom might be shaking their heads and going “Man, that’s low. Playing the race card, damn. And all this time I thought pizzabrat was one of the good ones.”

And I don’t understand your point about how being called a racist is “just an insult”, and somehow not as serious as a “genuine character evaluation”. If someone calls you a racist, they are maligning your character, and I don’t see how you can say they aren’t. You may know they’re full of shit, they may know they’re full of shit, some of the people that hear the argument may know they’re full of shit, but that doesn’t make it any less insulting.

And besides, if the person or people impugning your character are loud enough, and persistent enough, the accusations may stick to you whether they’re true or not. Just ask Al Gore.

If so, it could explain this. :slight_smile:

There used to be Tshirts that proclaimed this very thing, but I swear, I’m the only one who remembers them. They usually had a picture of someone like Malcolm X on the front, and on the back would be something to the effect of “Malcolm, Martin and Me… It’s a black thing, you wouldn’t understand”

Which drives me absolutely insane. What would happen if someone were to raise an argument - say against Affirmative Action - and say “It’s a white thing you wouldn’t understand.” The outrage would be swift, and immense - and justified. Maybe I don’t understand what it’s like to be the victim of anti-black racism, but being the victim of race discrimination is most certainly NOT a “black thing” - it’s a human thing, and I do understand.

And besides, it only seems to embrace the separatism. You can’t say that judging someone by their race is wrong, but then say that there are only things certain races could understand. That just equates to - don’t treat me like I’m lower than you, treat me like I’m BETTER than you.

Grrrr.

Sure, why not? After all, I was 8 years of age when that happened…are you saying I should have already been cynical and cranky by the ripe old age of 6 or 7?

Oh, come on! This is exactly what I’m talking about! Why are you giving her any validation by submitting this as an actual topic of discussion? A woman claims to be racially offended by somebody elses hairstyle, and then refuses to explain herself. She’s STUPID! It’s that simple!

Hey, just sharing an experience. I don’t see complaining about someone as validating her opinion - yeah, I’m wasting time sharing the experience, but I’m also trying to avoid working :). It is the BBQ Pit after all, and one of the best places I’ve ever found to slack off. And you’re right - she is stupid. Both of those women were stupid.

North Dakota. You’re allowed to carry unless the establishment has signed policy that it isn’t allowed. And there are few here that have that sign up. Put it this way, there are a few churches here that allow it, so think of what the bar owners think of the law, now that they know someone else is packing and they can take some time off.

Now to the Tea. As I said, it’s all jiggers (1 1/2 ounces for those that don’t know.) The 4 are vodka, rum, gin, and triple sec. What’s the 5th you use?

OK - I had to do a bunch of research last summer on CCW laws in retaurants and everywhere our client was excluded them from licensed premises whther a sign was posted or not.

I always used tequila too. It never seemed to fit but I was always told to throw it in.

…well… yeah.

very true.
Being called a racist is uncool. If you’re called a racist in public, you will never wash that stink off of you. Just look at Trent Lott. He paid an old coot a compliment and the entire LEFT WING CONSPIRACY (ha HA! I finally got to use that! LOL) proclaimed loudly that he’s a racist and all of a sudden half the country thinks he’s a grand dragon wizard whatever in the KKK.

PS- Anyone who replies to this message to call me a racist is a FUCKIN CHILD MOLESTER! cause that shit don’t wash off neither.

HAH.