Also, how do you reconcile your self proclaimed libertarian views with your authoritarian attitude? Your comments do not reflect a libertarian world view. As a matter of fact, you are an embarassment to the cause.
How are children supposed to learn then? And what is your main issue with children in restaurants? I have contiinually said that I monitor my son and will leave if there is any issue.
Libertarianism does not equal “I can do whatever I want”.
Trust me, no one, save the child’s Grandmother, wants anything to do with the little beast. Spare us, please.
Gotta say, I hate annoying kids as much as the next person, but I don’t really see anything wrong with this. My parents took me to a lot of restaurants when I was very small, but I was a pretty good, quiet, etc. child. I don’t really see the point of sequestering them. Not every kid is a hellion.
I also am getting the urge to go to every Zagat high rated restaurant to check if they have high chairs…
I beg to differ, clearly the business owner wants something to do with the “little beast”, and has made it clear by providing a high chair. You are right that libertarianism does not equal “doing what ever I want”-- but it also does not equal “You can do what you want as long as it does not offend my delicate sensiblities, whatever they may be.”
I can’t imagine why you would pity me because children’s laughter is painful to my ears. I mean, if I was forced to sit in a room full of children at full blast, maybe I would deserve pity, but since I’m not…
Don’t jump to the silly conclusion that because someone does not go all gooey over kids they are therefore lacking in sentiment, joy, love, wonder… my experience and observation is that most people need children to get in touch with their own childlike natures, to be in touch with the things that bring joy to children. In my own case only, I speak for no one else, I never lost most of that stuff. I can delight in much of the same things I delighted in when I was a child, I never “put away childish things” when I became a woman.
At the end of the day, I don’t really share the view that children are some special category of people…we are all just people, at different stages of our development.
I should actually clarify: normal, genuine laughter of a normal child is not painful. It’s just that when kids, especially girl kids, are happy and enjoying themselves they tend to mix laughter with horribly irritating screeches of glee that are quite definitely painful and turn me instantly crabby, the same way the high pitched bark of a tiny dog will.
Well, the fact is you’re a hypersensitive retarded assmunch. ZOMG the kids are so noisy!!! Seriously? You’re just boring and trying to be offended way too hard.
So, just to put this thread on track, yes,. I do think you, and starwarsfreek, and lynn bodini are all just way too sensitive. Plus you’ve demonstrated your moronicism in other threads already. Just shut up about it.
I mean, freudian slit’s username itself annoys me, but jesus christ, she’s right. Suck it up, you goddamned pussy, and quit being so freaked out by the sound of a laughing child.
PS: go ahead and respond with some snarky bullshit about how YMMV or people are such assholes because they take their kids out and you deserve not to be annoyed. It’s still a fact that you, and all the other kidhaters really need to get some fucking perspective and shut the fuck up.
ETA: it’s also SOP to say GTFO my message board, apparently. You should can that response as well, you worthless git.
Yes your brilliance astounds me.
I believe the term you are looking for is, “Fucking moron.”
That has to go up on the cluelessness hall of fame. Teach a kid how to behave in a fancy restaurant at Chuck E. Cheese’s. 
He doesn’t comprehend a simple thing like context:
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It’s only going to get the kid to resent you that you took him to Chuck E. Cheese’s around all the other kids who get to run around, and then pretend you are in a fancy restaurant.
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The idea that the kid is going to understand that the lesson learned at Chuck E. Cheese’s will corrolate to an entirely different environment is going to sink in.
They don’t serve duck or foie gras either, so from that I extrapolate s/he wasn’t talking about Denny’s.
I’ve never taken my daughter to a jacket required sort of place, but they certainly offer high chairs at many very nice restaurants here in New York.
If the place has high chairs then it’s within the scope of that restaurant’s services. Perhaps you should call places and ask for a reservation. Ask if they have high chairs, if the answer is yes, cancel your reservation.
So you are a shitty parent is what you are saying?
My daughter gets people fawning over her in the street.
I suspect this is fairly common amongst those that cannot stand children.
You take them to increasingly better restaurants, and teach them that they should modify their behavior according to the situation. Hell, when I was a kid, I was dragged to church on a weekly basis, and I learned that I was supposed to sit down and be quiet and still for a while. If I was taken to the park, I knew that I could run and yell and generally work off energy.
You start by taking them to McDonald’s, or someplace similar. Teach them to eat, as neatly as possible, and then they get to go play in the playground. Then you take them to Denny’s or IHOP, which has kid-friendly meals, but no playground. When they are capable of behaving at the diners, then you take them to better restaurants. It’s teaching them to crawl before they walk, sort of thing. By taking them to the fast food restaurants, it’s no big loss if you have to box up your food and leave because of a meltdown. By the time you take them to Denny’s, they should know and understand The Look (the one that says “Settle down or ELSE”), and rarely need to be taken out of the place. Even very small children can learn to behave themselves for a little while, long enough for a meal at a diner. Any child that still whines on a regular basis is NOT suitable for taking out in public. Whiny kids are almost always the fault of the parent. And the parents of whiny kids are so used to the whine that they don’t think that there’s any issue.
If I’m paying over fifty bucks a meal, WITHOUT alcohol, I don’t want any issues to come up, no matter how quickly they’re dealt with. I don’t care how old the troublemaker is, child or adult, I want to have a relaxing meal.
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…as your father said when you were born.
Do you extend the same kindness to children now? If, for instance, you were at a family gathering where there was one kid, just one, do you let them hang out with you, pass on the favor that was done to you? Or do you tell them to run along, you don’t want kids around?
I’m gonna guess that katurah is a brit. That word doesn’t seem to have the same weight in in the UK that it does here.