Can I run naked through page 29?
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The thing that you are willfully ignoring here is there are a large number of people out there who have never worked, and probably never will. Whereas I did work, for quite some time, since I was 13. Yet you have issues with the fact I no longer can work while ignoring all those folks who don’t bother to work and then try to claim that today’s children will be tomorrow’s workers. Apparently, you know zilch about history or are just not all that observant.
Again -
Simply because the birth rate is dropping in some areas doesn’t mean even those areas need to keep pumping out those kids. Look around you at all the folks that are unemployed or underemployed and then decide whether or not we are short on workers. I know this is a really difficult concept for you to grasp, but there is simply no need for the number of people we already have, much less creating more for the future.
Try this one on for size. We are being required to work until an older age, which gets even older almost every year. During that (more or less) 45 year time, how many children will be born that will not be able to get the job being held by that person who is unable to retire until he is 67, 70, 75? You keep squalling that we need to have a bunch of babies born now to support those who are adults now when they are old, but keep ignoring the fact that babies born now will be lucky to even find jobs in 20 years, because most of the now-adults will still be working. Or, it will go the other way and because there will be so many younger, cheaper workers available all the older ones will become unemployed. Either way, you have a bunch of unemployed people sitting around - still.
Not willing to continue the same mistake? What kind of stupid question is that? Just because my parents recieved (far less) assistance means it should be OK to continue to make that same mistake for the next (how many?) decades? Not to mention making it even worse every year?
Projecting your emotions onto what I post doesn’t make it reality, you know that don’t you? Good. Now, for what I am paying for, yes essentially all of our property taxes goes to the public school system in our city, which is garbage due to “no child left behind”. We also pay taxes to MediCal, DentiCal, welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing, ADC and other child centered government programs. Our taxes go to clean the graffitti off the walls, replace plants pulled up and throw in the streets and street signs that are stolen by tweens and teens. Our taxes go to create and maintain parks and playgrounds. And of course there are the higher rates we pay to various businesses who offer things like “kids eat free” and “kids stay free”. And all of that is off the top of my head - those of you who think kids are great are just completely unaware of the amount of money paid out to child-centered things.
Riiiight. I am gone for a couple of days and yet at least a page of posts went up - somehow this is my fault? Since my last post yesterday about 7 pm, there have been over 30 posts. As for “letting it go” or “getting the last word”, those are your issues, not mine. I am here to kill time, while waiting on laundry one time and while waiting on my husband to call to say he made it home safe right now.
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I may have rounded it to just 40 years in a few of these over and over the same thing posts, but the first time it came up I didn’t. Which of course doesn’t change anything that actually matters since we are talking a difference of 2 years and some odd months, but you do continue to try to dig thru the little tiny things to see if you can make me look bad. Shrug.
When I was a “kid” there was no work. When I was 13 I worked in the berry fields during the summer and spring break, and the boarding kennel all year. When I was 15 1/2, I started working at McDonalds and from then on I worked full time or close to it. Sometimes I had more than one job. Not everyone gets to skate by in life until they are 18 or 21 or whenever it is they quit going to school.
Interesting that kids still deliver papers were you are (or at least you think they do). Here they are delivered by adults because that is the only job they can get.
You explain how children do anything for society, other than sponge off of it until they are old enough to work. If they do get around to working. No one here has yet been able to justify the huge amount of money poured into children other than “perpetuation of the species” (as if the human race is going to die out) or “we need workers” (as if we don’t have a bunch of unemployed and under employed adults already). The real reason is “we like children and we don’t want to let you quit paying us to have them”.
Uh, if my husband isn’t paying to support me, why is it that no one has sent me any checks? Seems like the only money going into our accounts comes from him… :dubious:
Snort. “All that disabled”. Love it. As for claiming disability and still working, what are you talking about?
Actually, the federal government said that because they were going to force me to give them money, they promised they would give at least some of it back when I quit working due to age or disability. Perhaps they no longer tell younger people this lie, but they do send me that same statement every year.
HA. 1% of the budget. For “those who can’t care for themselves”. Federal welfare not going to children. People like me. HA. You do have no clue.
All parents recieve at least some government subsidization, or are you trying to claim that a majority of parents don’t claim their kids as deductions on the income tax returns?
And how many parents don’t send their kids to public schools - a majority?
Those two are just the tip of the iceberg.
Oh, I forgot - moron.
You’re required to because tax law states that your tax dollars, in part, go toward taking care of children whose parents need assistance. Or whose parents enroll their kids in school. Or whose parents want to partake in county vaccinations (which require no proof of inability to pay). There’s your proof. Dumbfuck.
No she doesn’t. She’s currently sponging off her husband while she tries to work the system. They’re not buying it, though. We generally don’t make truly disabled people wait that long for benefits unless their story doesn’t add up.
I’m pretty sure she’s trying to get it again.
Well, it’s obvious that you just want to hear yourself rant. The economic impact children have on society is substantial and has been stated. In addition, children are training to become working adults (not just people who pick a magic number and then try to milk the system because they feel they’ve been ripped off by those short people who don’t have paychecks for a few years).
You sapped the system for YEARS and you’re scamming it now. My guess is if you can’t collect your welfare check by now, they’re on to you. Better start looking for a job so your husband doesn’t have to continue to carry your self-righteous ass.
If you’re not working, you’re sponging off someone.
I’m talking about YOUR statement that you’ve been disabled since you were a teenager. Well, no…if you were earning money, you weren’t disabled. Unless this was all bullshit, which is my first guess.
Unless you’re not all that disabled. If you were, you’d be collecting your welfare check. But you’re not. Like I said…you can’t just decide to be disabled and hope to get even with those fucking kids who steal your tax dollars. You have to be able to actually prove it.
No, it’s you who are clueless. https://www.msu.edu/user/skourtes/fact.html
This bullshit has gone on and on and ON for too long.
Y’know, I can handle people who just don’t like kids. That’s fine with me…there are plenty of kids in this world that I don’t like much either, my own included at times. I can understand why people choose to remain childless by choice, and that decision is hunky dory. Do whatever rocks your boat by all means, and leave the breeding up to those who choose differently.
But DO NOT attempt to justify your choices in economic terms, claiming that children are a burden on you personally, and for society at large. It is patently obvious that they are not, neither in the short nor long term, for many of the reasons already elucidated in this thread…they contribute through their very existence to much of the discretionary spending that occurs (especially by proxy via their parents) thus creating employment for others, and will in the long term be workers and taxpayers who will ensure the long-term survival of western economies.
The opinions espoused by Carol Stream and curlcoat et al are the ultimate in smug ‘I’m Alright Jack’ fuckheadedness. They themselves are the products of a society where children were nurtured, educated and provided for as valuable beings…thus they are able today to sit at a computer, with a job, in a (probably) comfortable home as literate, well nourished and (probably) healthy adults. Without the sacrifices of generations before them, they’d not be enjoying such a lifestyle today.
You want to be disgruntled about how hard-done by you are, having to (without any real effort on your part btw) help raise the next generation to be the garbos and the teachers and the factory workers and the doctors and the taxi drivers and the farmers and the office drones of the future? Go right ahead…yer’ opinions are down in the dunny along with your credibility.
She said she received benefits from the State, but they stopped. She’s currently trying to scam the Feds…
So many scams…so little time.
If it wasn’t for those pesky kids getting all the goodies, she’d be on ‘Easy Street’ I guess.
It must be hard though, living with such a great chip on your shoulder as she does. With the resultant osteo problems (the weight of the ‘chip’) and the psychological burden she has to carry (all those kids and all), surely she must be eligible for a Disability Payment of some sort!
Fuck, I don’t know how she copes at all…poor bugger. 
Kill this thread. It’s bringing out the worst in everyone.
She’s not sponging off her husband, that’s what husbands do–take care of their families. Sorry if that hasn’t been your experience in life, but it’s true.
Used to be, that parents took care of their children, too, but now some slugs want everyone else to take of their children.
Hence this thread.
I agree–although the reasons I’d say that it’s not really bringing out the worst in everyone more than it’s just letting all of the members who enjoy great trolling around and threadshitting have a great playground.
So there was no work, but there was work? Are you insane?
You know what? Not only do they deliver papers, but they also staff the local McDonald’s.
You know how many kids I know? Plenty. You know how many I know who don’t work as teenagers? Zero. All kids I know work. I worked as a teeanger, just 20 years ago, as did every single other kid I knew. I don’t know any super-rich people, I guess; all normal middle class folk I know have kids that work. What makes you think teenagers don’t work? The same thing that told you people get married younger and have more kids than they used to?
I asked if you would stop taking disability payments when you have taken more than you have paid in. In response you have this>>
What money do I get as a parent? The only deduction I take for my kid is the standard deduction that you get. It’s the heartbeat deduction. I pay taxes, and by that I mean that I pay taxes. I get no tax credits, I get a deduction. It is not difficult for me to believe that you do not understand the difference. In a given year, I pay more than what I owe–giving the government a free loan–and get back the balance. What I paid is in the common fund–it is the same money that you will be taking when you finally qualify for disability and you have said that you have no problem taking money above and beyond what you have paid in.