As for this, I completely understand, and I don’t ask for it to be high on your priority list; I just hope it will be on the list. I’d rather not have the emergent symptoms at all than have them professionally treated! 
Daniel
If the individual in question has one of those pen-type injectors you might not realize that they’re doing anything other than getting out a pen to take notes. The needle on those is roughly a half-inch long and really doesn’t look that much different than an ultrafine point pen.
I can’t imagine why anyone would think that someone should go into a germ-filled bathroom to inject medication. That is like so totally asking for an infection. The door handles on most bathrooms are just teeming with germs, and while the alcohol swabs help they aren’t guaranteed to kill everything.
The only thing I ask of people who inject in public is that they dispose of their sharps responsibly. Back when I worked for Pizza Hut I had the misfortune of finding a spent insulin syringe in the bathroom trash can. We had to specially bag the contents of that trash can and call the hospital to arrange for a biohazard pickup. Please be nice to the restaurant staff and avoid creating this hassle for them by taking your used sharps with you and disposing of them responsibly.
Says milroyj, when he can’t come up with a response appropos to the topic at hand, so he insults my personal life.
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Please, tell me you’re not shocked by this.
What damage? My eyes! My eyes! Oh the pain! The pain! If they are so sensitive, then maybe they should stay at home instead. Are some people such big damn drama queens as this? Get over it all you selfish, self absorbed, overprotected assholes.
Maybe some people think all “less than perfect” people should be shut away, so as to not disgust those who are perfect?
I have no health problems so far. I’ve been very very lucky. But some of you make me sick.
I know you are, but what am i?
I’ve never seen anyone inject insulin at a restaurant table. I’ve also never seen anyone inject insulin in a public bathroom. What conclusions can we draw from this data?
- There are no diabetics in Northern California
- Diabetics are so discreet when checking their blood sugar and injecting insulin that I’ve never seen it.
- I’m able to mind my own fucking business, and don’t go around staring at other patrons while they eat.
Based on the post by Hentor and other people dealing with diabetes, I’m guessing number two. Based on your own lying, hypocritical, slandering, and just plain fucking stupid post, I betting number three plays a pretty big factor in your own vacuous, fact-free bleatings.
Now kindly go pound a handful of insulin syringes up your ass, you dull, dishonest dumbfuck.
C’mon, man! Catch up! Sauron recanted and apologized back on Page Two.
The remaining holdouts are milroyj, currently defending his position with the argument that Guinistasia does not have a job, and Kalhoun, who apparently has access to a major survey of diabetics that he is cruelly declining to share with us.
Let’s fight some ignorance.
Poll on injection at restaurants. Note that 82% say they inject in public.
Well, your indignation is misplaced. I know enough about juvenile diabetes, on my own and from what the OP eventually said, to know that it is not necessary to do it at the dining room table.
I hope you aren’t saying I accused them of using their boy. In case I wasn’t clear, I said that the end result is that they are drawing more attention to him than most kids his age care to deal with. They don’t like to feel different from the gang. Testing on the sidelines of a soccer game is not the same thing as doing it in a dining room amongst strangers who are eating. I never said he was a disease risk. If you were attempting to attribute that to me, you might want to re-read my posts.
Stop with the drama queen routine already. I’m quite aware of the secondary health issues associated with diabetes. Since you’re the expert, you tell me (particularly when our OP already clarified that he exaggerated the time element portion of his post) where there is any impact whatsoever to this kid’s health by excusing himself from the table to administer his meds.
Yeah…that 15 second walk will certainly be the deciding factor. Christ…get a grip already.
And simple manners would tell you that an unnecessary medical procedure at the dinner table is rude.
And a hearty “DUH!” to you. Thanks for the brilliant documentary that shall heretofore be referred to as “Stuff we already know.”
An academy award quality performance!
Oh, I disagree with that. You continue to claim I’m saying something I’m not, even after it’s been explained multiple times. I think you’ve got me beat.
For example, I never said this.
Between the two of us, based on this thread, I think you’re the person who has demonstrated a lack of willingness to change their attitude.
Once again, I didn’t say that. I said dining out may not be the best OPTION. That was based upon a misunderstanding of how imperative it is for Hentor the Barbarian’s son to receive insulin after eating. The impression I got initially was that his/her son would be in severe medical distress if the injection didn’t happen right away. From that impression, I inferred that eating out might not be the best option, because it would create additional variables that couldn’t always be controlled. YOU are the one who then took that and ran with it, insinuating I was somehow prejudiced against those with diabetes.
I can certainly understand how my first post could be misconstrued, and frankly, I did not respond well to the flaming I got based on that. Time has lent its perspective, though, and I’ve clarified my remarks more than once. Why you refuse to acknowledge that clarification is beyond me.
However, once more: I have no problem with people who need to test and/or inject at a table. I, myself, am a very private person, and I would not want to do this in front of people if I could avoid it in any way. However, different strokes for different folks, and all that.
You sure are thick.
It seems that a public demonstration is in order. Please come to Gettysdope in July and I’ll show you everything.
P.S.- not you, Sauron.
“Hiding” implies shame, which I am not a proponent of. And I make my statements about what most diabetics because I’ve never seen anyone do it. If you make it so no one can see it, then it isn’t an issue. However, that is not what your earlier posts are reflecting. Three pages into this thread you attempted to describe the process, but it doesn’t match up with your earlier description of the whole layout.
By using the word “moments”, you indeed did overstate the time element. Moments are measured in seconds; not minutes. You implied that your son would experience a serious reaction if it wasn’t done right then and there! That is clearly not the case.
I stand corrected on that. Though my opinion that injections are usually not necessary during dinner still stands.
I am not bothering to quote your “reply” to me.
Drama queen? As if.
I have had diabetic gangrenous toes fall off when I pull back bedcovers to check their (nonexistent) pulses to their feet. What drama? It happens–and it happens to noncompliant diabetics sooner rather than later.
You keep coming back to this 15 seconds. Hentor has stated elsewhere that he needs to administer the injection within 10 minutes of eating. Sounds like mid-meal to me. The lack of sanitation in public restrooms has been covered ad nauseam. The restroom is not an option for hygienic reasons as well as emotional reasons. This disease is a part of Hentor Jr. --it has a massive impact on his life and choices. There is no way to marginalize this disease in public. Would you deny an epileptic the opportunity of dining out because he may seize and provoke anxiety in the other diners?
Just what is your issue with this? Bad manners? huh? I don’t accept that argument. As said repeatedly, testing etc is done discretely. There is no disease transmission risk, if the sharps are handled and disposed of safely. Why would you or anyone else deny this kid a normal childhood (which I presume includes eating out upon occasion here in America)? Why the need to hide? I am truly puzzled by this stance.
final note: Miss Manners (bless her) has made a career of gently guiding the ill mannered towards civilty. One of her creeds is that you do not match bad manners with bad manners. Therefore, if you feel that Hentor and Co has committed a gross breach of etiquette, the standard is that you do not stoop to that level. In other words, just so I am clear, you keep your criticisms to yourself and take the high road by not making a scene in said restaurant, or by publicly decrying the offenders. Think what you like of folks like Hentor -but your bad manners are displayed for all to see here. 'Nuff said.
You’re wrong, asshole. And just so’s you get your misplaced rant aligned, I already made it clear that it’s not a matter of being nosy. If you’re discreet, it’s not an issue. If you’re not, you’re unnecessarily making people uncomfortable. I’m absolutely sure lots of people have injected in close proximity to me, and without my knowing it. That’s the idea, pinhead.
Nah, I’m thick, too … but I promise I’m not as thick as a few folks apparently want me to be.
Hardly.