I’m new to gun ownership so I recently became a member on a large gun message board… Anyway, if there’s one thing I can’t stand on that message board, it’s the number of complete fucking insane religious people on the forum’s “Religious Issues” board. I’m talking straight-out, insane, young-earth creationists who take a literal word-for-word interpretation of the Bible, and anything else is ridiculous. Debating with these people is ridiculous. There’s a 9-page topic currently going on as they try to prove Noah’s Ark is 100% literally true.** This includes dinosaurs on the ark.**
It pisses me off because it just perpetuates the stereotype of all gun owners being ignorant redneck hicks who believe in anything BUT logic and reasoning.
If you’re up for a good laugh or frustrating time (I fall under the latter), check it out here: <link removed --Giraffe>
It could definitely use backup from the scientifically minded. :smack:
Almost forgot to mention this gem in which someone suggests Obama may be the antichrist according to scriptures he’s been reading:
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That “Obama is teh Antichrist!!!111!!” nonsense is all over the internet these days, with all kinds of criteria being freely invented and adapted to fit their theories (and never mind that the Bible doesn’t even really predict such a figure).
Still, if they’re really so sure that Barack Obama is the AC, they should all be rushing out to vote for him, shouldn’t they? If he doesn’t get elected, then how can Penis ever ensue with raptures and tribulations and everything?
Yeah, that pisses me off. It’s fun to drive out to the club in my little Corolla with a Darwinfish on the back and a pentagram on the front. Full size Toyota trucks still get funny looks out there, so pretty much everything I do is an abomination.
I can’t count the number of times I’ve withdrawn from the NRA because of their religious crap. I always have to re-up because the club requires it (for insurance reasons, I think NRA provides coverage to ranges if all shooters are NRA members)
Then there’s the angry ex-military types. They weigh 300 pounds, are frequently racist, sport a flattop, and snap at customers. That’s the way to bring new people to the sport, you prick.
The conspiracy types are almost a breath of fresh air after the other two. They were more annoying during Clinton, I couldn’t hardly buy a cowboy gun without hearing about TWA 800 :rolleyes:
But probably 70% of the shooters I know are regular folk. We all try to avoid the nutballs that seem to take over most gatherings (online or not) and just want to enjoy our hobby without people bothering us.
So are you suggesting that the smart people here go there and try to start some shit? People that believe that kind of stuff aren’t going to have thier minds changed by logical argument.
Interesting I see a claim that atheists are more active on the board and their comments are numerically skewed. This board has people with that claim. Maybe its not true. Perhaps we are more common that believer think.
This really encapsulates my ambivalence about 2nd Amendment issues. I support gun rights but I have a strong distaste for the gun culture. The right wing religious crap is bad enough but the casual racism and overlap with white supremacist movements is even worse. You say that 70% of shooters are normal, non-fanatic people and I agree with you, but I’ve also been to gun shows where tables were set up selling copies of The Turner Diaries, swastika flags, Hitler T-Shirts and other racist garbage and the normal people just kind of accept it as part and parcel of the culture. It would be easier to be passionately supportive of gun rights (instead of just being in passive, technical agreement with some of the legal issues) if the culture was not populated with so many thoroughly unpleasant, belligerant, domineering and often racist assholes.
BrandonR, I removed the links you posted. We generally ask that people not link to other message boards, particularly to enlist help in arguing a viewpoint or to make fun of the locals. In the past it’s lead to board wars and troll invasions which we’d rather avoid.
Edit: you’re welcome to quote a few example arguments that you found particularly maddening if you want to rant against those arguments in general. Just leave off the links.
Aw, c’mon Giraffe! Stick your neck out a little sorry and at least let him tell us the name of the other board. It’s hard to fight ignorance if we don’t know where the target is. Can he at least give us a hint as to the board name or the group it’s affiliated with? Googling “rightwing creationist gun loving whackos” gives us too many hits.
Nothing illogical about this. They just had to observe the rule about not all congregating in one spot at the same time.
I occasionally post on an alt health board that has a sizable contingent of conspiracy theorists, including people who believe things like the Baron von Rothschild being the leader of a worldwide secret order of reptilian shape-shifters. I’m beginning to think that trying to reason with these folks may be a waste of time.
As long as you make this point, I have to qualify it- you are correct that the various Biblical writers do not predict a personage who is called “The AntiChrist” tm. However, Daniel speaks of someone/something he called “the Little Horn” (Ch 7) and “the Willful King” (Ch 11), Paul of “The Man of Sin/Lawlessness, the Son of Perdition”, and John the Revelator of “The Sea-Beast and the Land-Beast”, all of whom could be interpreted to signify a tyrranical person/persons/system that will be “AntiChrist”.
Or they may just be referencing (in Daniel’s case) Antiochus IV Epiphanes and (in Paul & John’s case) whatever Christian-opposing Roman &/or Jewish authorities were prevailing at the time.
Anyway, Barack isn’t the AntiChrist.
Well, since this board skews Left and the Mods would rather we not cross-pollinate with the OP’s board that skews Right, how about the Left-wing pro-2nd Amendment nutjobs - the ones who suspect that “gun control” is just a euphemism for “negro-control?”
Or it’s just a coincidence that the first wave of gun control legislation occurred at the same time as the inner-city riots of the 1960’s?
Then there was another wave of gun bans in response to shooting by mentally ill individuals, coincidentally after the effects of de-funding of mental health social services in the 1980’s.
