Persuaders remake - why, Ben Stiller, WHY?!!

I was just looking over Ben Stiller’s IMDb profile when I noticed something that made me do an industrial-strength double take. At the top of his filmography listing, with the word Announced in red text:

The Persuaders.

As Jimi Hendrix said: 'scuse me while I piss myself.

The Persuaders! A British series about two hilariously over-the-top international playboys, Danny Wilde and Brett Sinclair - played by Tony Curtis and Roger Moore, respectively - who trot the globe while fighting miscreants and chasing taille. Boasting impressive cinematography and beautiful locations, the show relied on the considerable chemistry between Moore and Curtis, and the proverbial “odd-couple” relationship between their British and American characters (not yet a cliche in 1971.) It also featured a very exotic and striking theme song by John Barry, heavy on the Moog synthesizer and the zither. While it didn’t last beyond the first season, The Persuaders! was by all accounts a great little show, and the women all had great little asses, and there were a lot of great little European sportscars.

Fast forward to 2007. Ben Stiller and his boy Wilson have already ruined one classic 70’s buddy-cop show. Stiller did a commendable job capturing Starsky’s body language. Unfortunately, he did a piss-poor job capturing Starsky’s cocky personality, which was a highlight of the original show. Wilson, likewise, did an absolutely abominable job of channeling Hutch, portraying him as a goofy slacker/surferboy and a ladykiller. In fact, the remake completely reversed the characters of Starsky and Hutch. David Soul’s Hutch was a straight-laced California golden boy but something of a stiff neck - whereas Paul Glaser’s Starsky was cocky, playful, and charming. Stiller’s Starsky is a simpering windbag who uses phony kinetics and lacks confidence, and Owen Wilson’s Hutch is basically Owen Wilson. I was utterly aghast at how unfaithful the remake was to the original show. Sickened, in fact.

Owing to this, I have absolutely no doubt that the Persuaders remake is going to be the same way. Worse, even. For one, Ben Stiller stepping into a Tony Curtis role is like putting a saddle on a wild ass. Take a memo, Ben Stiller - just because you’re short and Jewish doesn’t mean you can just play any short, Jewish character. Tony Curtis’s Danny Wilde is acres above anything that Stiller could belch out. Curtis is widely thought to have been one of the most handsome stars of his era, and has a look of dark intensity that few even today can match. Ben Stiller has the looks of a simian in comparison.

Likewise, and even more puzzlingly, Steve Coogan is taking on the role of Brett Sinclair. This is completely baffling to me. I cannot think of a single person on earth who looks less like Roger Moore than Steve Coogan. Coogan looks for all the world like a Brythonic warrior, and if Rosemary Sutcliffe’s excellent novels about Roman Britain were ever put to the big screen, I could not think of a better man than Coogan to appear in them. But Roger Moore he is not. The latter’s fair countenance screams, “Aristocrat! Aristocrat! Aristocrat!” And who is Lord Brett Sinclair, if not the consumnate British aristocrat. His whole character is centered around the intense vibes of elitism that Moore exudes by second nature. Without a comparable actor, the character will be a complete failure.

It gives me chills to imagine the kind of raunchy, forced humor that this remake is going to try to use in an attempt to distract us from the abominable casting choices. Suffice it to say, expect plenty of the typical overblown sarcasm and self-deprecating jabbering that Stiller has become famous for. And watch for a cameo by the original Persuaders, Curtis and Moore - maybe they can appear at the end of the movie, as they did in Starsky and Hutch, and make a glib remark. And, naturally, Will Ferrell will have to be involved.

Nothing short of an advance copy of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. could persuade me to watch this movie.

Count your blessings.

He could have chosen Wilson for the Brett Sinclair part. (I’m almost sorry he didn’t. Wilson’s English accent could have been a contender for the Dick Van Dyke award.)

Sadly, Ben Stiller doesn’t need to take the memo. It is the inane Hollywood casting agents that continue to place him in roles that boggle the mind.

  1. He has no talent (comedic or otherwise).
  2. He’s too short to be a leading man.
  3. See number 1.

Ben Stiller has the looks of a simian in comparison to some of the simians I’ve seen at the zoo. His popularity is beyond comprehension. The fact that he’s been able to make a living at acting is just wrong. I’m sure it doesn’t hurt that he is the child of famous parents, but when does that run out? Apparently never.

Don’t even get me started on the penis-nosed Owen Wilson. A likable chap I’m sure, but hey… cosmetic surgery. You can afford it! (although by now his nose is his signature, like Jennifer Grey of Dirty Dancing fame. And when Jennifer got a nose job, I didn’t recognize her. She was good looking before the nose job, and good looking after the nose job. But she isn’t the same actress.)

It could be worse; it might have been a remake of something less completely obscure and forgettable. As far as I remember, The Persuaders was cringe-inducingly bad in almost every way. That’s not to say that I think it will be any good, only that, unlike Starsky & Hutch there really isn’t all that much to be ruined here.

But will it have the blatant homoerotic overtones of the original? Or the stupendously tacky costumes (as designed by Roger Moore, for Roger Moore?) I guess one can assume that it will have the same cavalier approach to plot development, so that’s something. I won’t be seeing it as I can’t stand Stiller and I love the original show- I think it’s a beautiful period piece regardless of its objective merits or lack thereof- and don’t think it really warrants remaking.

I’m not gonna defend Stiller due to the quality of his work, even though I found Dodgeball amusing in an extremely stupid way. You have so many misconceptions though, I have to try to correct them.

  1. He’s a box office draw, having made movies that put him as #45 in box office earnings of all stars. While #45 doesn’t seem that high, it’s high enough, and he keeps making profit from movies that aren’t too expensive to make. (45th place puts him ahead of Kevin Costner and Chris Walken in the top 50 (cite))

  2. While he’s not very tall (5’8"), we have other actors of small statue that work well as leading men (or at least are getting cast as such): Tom Cruise (5’7"), Dustin Hoffman (5’7"), Robin Williams (5’8"), Bogart (5’8½"), Steve McQueen (5’9"), Sean Penn (5’9") and Harvey Keitel (5’7") and - wait for it - Tony Curtis (5’9"). Being tall is an exception in Hollywood.

  3. He’s not depending on the goodwill of casting agents since he produces a lot (but not all) of his own movies.

I’m sure **The Persuaders ** will reach new levels of suckitude. I’m also convinced that it’ll make money.

It looks like a vanity project to me and I don’t think it will make money. Nobody under 40 now knows what The Persuaders! was, unlike Starsky and Hutch which was much more popular, lasted longer, and was later in the 70s. Steve Coogan doesn’t have recognition among the frat pack moviegoers. I’m not so sure about the potential for success here.

I really can’t get worked up over this. One; I like Stiller so no problem there. Two; c’mon, we’re talking about The Persuaders - this is like claiming that Drew Barrymore desecrated the original Charlie’s Angels - some things never rose high enough to be knocked down.

Somebody must’ve talked him into it.
:smiley:

I stand corrected (I think). But, since my original reply added virtually nothing to the OP, I’ll just take my beatdown and walk away. But for the record, your answer to my #1 speaks to the lack of taste of the movie-going public, not to his acting “talent”. :smiley:

Steve Coogan could no more play Brett Sinclair than Bernard Manning could play Scarlett O’Hara.

And, Mangetout, wash your mouth out with soap! The Persuaders! (properly, it should have the exclamation mark) was a classic of its kind … now, granted, you could argue that its kind was never any good to start with, but that’s beside the point. And I can think of half a dozen shows off the top of my head that were much more dire, obscure and forgettable. (The Adventurer, anyone?)