Pet owner's boyfriend asks her to give away dog before moving in with him and his kid. Should she?

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Perhaps I wasn’t clear in the OP. What I meant for April to have undergone is not a simple bite, but something more like this incident. (Warning: while the news story in the link is safe for work, the story is disturbing.)

I think it’s … odd to call a father being protective of a child whose undergone such a thing babying. And I also don’t think the the technique you described above would work with a child whose undergone such extensive trauma.

As I read this, your former pet seems not to have undergone permanent trauma. is that correct?

I ask because, when I wrote forget in the post you replied to, I would have been better advicsed to write stop evincing great and continual separation trauma. Do you think your former pet was happy in her new home, or was she forever missing you?

Skald Is your whole life just on e big daydream? Don’t take that the wrong way, I’m a fan of your work.

But anyway, to the OP: Susane is just gonna have to think who can make her happier. They really should have thought about this a long time ago. Personally, I think humans come first, but that’s just me.

Dog goes outside where the kid will never have to see it. Easy enough. No reason to give up the dog until they actually are married. There are a whole host of complications involved with people changing their minds before the wedding. Once it’s official, which won’t be for at least a year, then you can give up the dog if you haven’t found a better place for it.

But in a year+ of time, you can easily find a good home for any animal if you exert even the tiniest bit of effort.

Basically, Susan has to assess whether she thinks this specific request and circumstance make it reasonable for her to give Pearl away. That’s going to differ based on a lot of things, and I could say making every choice under different circumstances. There’s no one-size-fits-all answer.

I’m pretty sure she didn’t constantly pine for me, no.

That said, there have been a fewexamplesof dogs mourning their masters for years. I do have to wonder, though, if at some point their mourning became habit, rather than actual mourning- dogs need structure and routine in their lives.

My cat Albert has been in a depressed state ever since my husband died. He was definitely my husband’s cat, through and through.

So some pets do suffer like that, but I think you tend to know which pets will and which won’t.

Its possible incompetent therapy is involved, but its worth considering the scenario where it isnt, which is quite possible given we may be talking post trauma rather than a simple phobia.

In real life I suspect solutions could be found, rather than it having to come to an ultimatum. As a moral dilemma, it comes down to what Susan can live with in the long run, rather than any absolute answer. I would see my job as to try and help her be clear about that, rather than saying which way it ‘should’ be.

Otara

My answer’s the same as Acid Lamp’s and yeah, I understood from the OP that April was seriously mauled. I wouldn’t go so far as to call the father “babying”. He means well.

But part of trauma recovery is learning to face new, similar, situations. If April had been hurt in a car accident, would Edward be reasonable to ask Whatshername to use a bike everywhere? Hell, biking’s healthy and the car won’t care if it gets sent to that Great Parking Lot in the Sky.

If April was in a school shooting, she would be encouraged to go out in public again, to places where crowds are, even though something bad happened to her.

If she fell down the stairs, would they move to ranch house?

If she got e.coli from a hamburger, would they all become vegetarians?

What happened to April is sad but the sooner she learns to face that fear the better off she’ll be. Indulging her fears is not really rational and it’s not really doing her any favors. Her Dad should have bought her a dog of her own when she was first attacked.

Something bad happened to April. The whole family shouldn’t be held hostage by that. April should be encouraged to heal with the understanding that irrational fears are just that.

I voted “other” - they should get engaged, live separately and keep having bed-frame rattling sex. It sounds like they have something pretty good - no reason why they can’t keep at it. Eventually, the dog will die and April will recover and/or get a place of her own.

I’d actually refuse to marry Susan because she asked to think about it. In my mind if you’re going to ask someone to marry you (and for them to say yes) that means that you want that person in your life and your baggage and family becomes theirs.

The fact that she even had to think about whether she should keep the dog or my daughter and myself means that I and my daughter aren’t the most important people in her life. And if we’re going to get married then I, and especially my daughter, need to be.

How long has it been since Edmund had a steady lay?

I’m impressed by the (near!) inadvertent coinage of the term “e-daydream” Shakes!

My opinion?

  1. Therapy for the wussy kid.

  2. Two-pronged counseling for the father: parenting, for
    encouraging pathetic and phobic behaviour;
    relationship, for insisting on a hard-edged ultimatum in
    without which he wins all without compromise.

  3. Surgical insertion of a spine not made of jelly for
    Susan, with follow-up physio on how to define useful
    relationship boundaries.

I don’t like this family, Skald!

First reactions aren’t especially profound, and some people just like to think, After all, many a person has responding to impending parenthood with “No fucking way” and gone on to be a great parent. If I asked my husband if a family member could move in, say, I promise you his first reaction would be “Gee, I dunno”, but after a couple days of reflection he’d want what was best for our extended family. And he’d be gracious about it.

I think there’s a bit of room between having an overly traumatic fear of dogs and getting to the point of wanting to live with a rotweiller in your own home. That’s a lot to expect of a 6 year old in my view - it might be possible, but I wouldn’t see it as an outcome that has to happen in order to be able to have a normal life, or even an outcome that can definitely occur.

Refuse to marry. Get April help to deal with her problem with dogs.

Nope, my dogs and I come as a package deal. Lots of kids have been a dog bite victim and dealt with it.

The prospect of living a life without dogs so the perfect little peach April won’t wig out… Nope, nope, nope. She needs to put on her big girl pants and get over herself.
(Yes I’m being a little flippant because I quite frankly like dogs better than kids. But my choice still stands.)

Depends on how she feels about the dog.

Myself, No. Since I like and trust dogs better than most people I know.

count me in as part of the dog team! I wouldn’t have let it get this far without a clear understanding of you either love my dog too or you don’t love either of us.

I cannot imagine life without a dog. I have no children so obviously have no problem imagining that life! The only time I didn’t have a dog in my life was when I lived in an apartment - and even though cats weren’t allowed either, I smuggled in one of those! I will have a fuzzy-butt in my house to pet come hell or high water! No way would I ever give up a dog once I had one in my heart.

If you bore or sired a child who proved to be allergic to the dog, what would you do?

For that matter, what would you do if you bore a child and your dog(s) proved hostile to the newborn, as sometimes, happens, what would you do?

There are treatment options for allergies and I’m pretty sure that proper socialization / training / introductions can resolve the hostility problem.

Fortunately, I have no children by choice - I’m 36 and married - I’d have them if I wanted to. I pump my system full of hormones constantly so I never have to make those choices. Sorry it doesn’t help your hypothetical!

*That *is funny. I’m going to have to steal it. “when the dog smiles”. Perfect tag line, perfectly timed.

She keeps the dog, even if it means the deal is off.