Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F**k Are You Doing?!’

And i answered- “Nope”. I said the closest was Live action Jungle Book.

The kids I knew watched The Princess Bride over and over and the Emperor’s new groove. They had memorized most of both.

2023 had been a bad year for Disney with a series of flops. Indiana Jones. The Marvels. Wish. Antman and the Wasp. Haunted Mansion. Little Mermaid and Elemental did fair. Their only clear win was Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

2024 did much better. Three billion dollar plus swings. Inside Out 2, Moana 2, and Deadpool and Wolverine. Wicked didn’t hit that club but obviously did well.

2025 has Disney starting out fairly strong too with the Captain America Brave New World. They are overdue for a whiff.

Thing is that if Snow White is the whiff it isn’t because other movies are beating it out.

I won’t be shocked if it ends up building numbers over the next weeks but won’t be surprised either if it doesn’t. It seems like people just aren’t going out to the movies much right now. Maybe other movies will be bigger draws? Or maybe people are feeling economically insecure and staying home to stream instead?

The new Cap is hardly doing well - maybe it’ll break even, maybe it won’t. It certainly isn’t a success. For the sake of comparison, at this point in its run nine years ago, Captain America: Civil War had made twice as much money.

That was the year of Barbie, Oppenheimer and Mario Bors- those three sucked a lot of the money out of movie goers.

They really arent, what with streaming, etc.

Well Civil War made it into the billion plus club.

But yes $400 million isn’t quite enough for it to be profitable on its own (although toy and branded crap sales will get it there), officially need 435 M I read.

But yeah what is the implication of Disney having the top two grossing films released in ‘25 so far and neither is considered doing well, both possible box office flops?

So I saw the movie a few hours ago, at least partly because I’ve been following this thread for the last couple of years.

And…it’s not bad. The dwarfs are basically CGI versions of the hand-drawn animated ones from the 1937 movie. They look pretty odd, in an uncanny-valley way, but you get used to them after a while. They are explicitly described as magical creatures who live in the forest and are not human. And to be honest, they don’t really look human, but more like caricatures. Their portrayal actually makes Peter Dinklage’s comments look rather silly and pointless. These “dwarfs” look nothing like a human with dwarfism.

The “bandits” that were added to the plot have very small roles with little to no dialogue (other than the lead bandit, who replaces the Prince).

The plot has been updated and Snow White definitely shows more agency than in the original film. And the songs are pretty good too, especially the extended “Heigh-Ho” song.

All in all, it was a good, if not great, live-action remake that is worth seeing, in my opinion. I am glad I saw it at the bargain Tuesday price.

To play devil’s advocate, Zwarte Piet is a magical character who looks like a caricature and who looks nothing like an actual Black person, but it’s still racist as hell.

For me it was Lion King, Jungle Book, and Tarzan that I watched a lot. And the Winnie The Pooh movies I mentioned.

We had the Disney Sing-along Songs tapes too. There was one where they go to Disneyland and sign the songs there, and since I had only been to Disneyland as a baby and was living in Israel which doesn’t have any theme parks on Disney’s level, that one was pretty mind blowing to me.

OTOH I had tapes like Little Mermaid that I watched maybe once in my whole childhood.

Actually, that specifically is a memorable one… Digression time!

When I was maybe 8 or 9, I was hanging out with a neighbor kid, and he wanted to play a computer game I had. But I had let another friend borrow the game, and he had the CD at his house. But the neighbor was insistent, so we walked to the friend’s house to ask for the game back. But the friend wasn’t home. So I started walking back, but my neighbor went into their house, went to their computer desk, grabbed the CD, and caught up to me. I was a good kid, and the idea of a little casual breaking and entering was absolutely shocking to me. (Well, the door was unlocked, but still). I ditched the neighbor, went home, and prepared for the hammer to come down. I was sure that any moment, my friend’s parents and my parents would show up to yell at me for my horrible transgression of aiding and abetting a criminal.

With a horrible feeling of impending doom, I decided to try and distract myself by watching a movie I couldn’t remember ever watching before… Hence, Little Mermaid.

Doesn’t she live in the castle until the witch kicks her out?

Wait, I guess that wouldn’t make sense, because the prince doesn’t know her? Or is he a foreign prince?

Is Snow White related to the evil queen? Or is she just a random (very fancily dressed) peasant in the kingdom who’s prettier according to the mirror?

I guess I was just thinking about feature length movies, but they also watch TV shows, and those they sometimes repeat. It depends on how long the backlog is and how much they like the show.

Superkitties, my oldest has watched every episode many times, but it’s only 2 seasons.

With other shows, like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse or Paw Patrol, there are enough spinoffs and such that they don’t really repeat.

But, she’ll demand to listen to songs from Nightmare Before Christmas, or Superkitties, or THIS damned song.

And with Bluetooth and Spotify, there’s almost never an excuse as to why we cannot… :skull_and_crossbones:

I don’t know about the new film and can’t remember the one from 1937 (which I saw at maybe 6 years at my first visit to a movie theater), but in the original tale by the Grimm brothers, the evil queen is Snow Whites’s stepmother (the evil stepmother being a recurrent theme in the Grimms’ tales), and the prince is a travelling prince from another kingdom.

A digression is the ending (and somehow Disney didn’t want to touch that):

At Snow White’s and the prince’s wedding, the evil queen is forced to put on red-hot iron shoes and dances herself to death. Justice has been done…

But, those songs are composed by Danny Elfman! I could listen to his music all day!
One day, I will dress as Lock. My Gobhi will dress as Shock. We will find a friend to dress as Barrel and we will get a very large sack. We will sing Kidnap The Santa Claus while walking to local malls and other events to do just that.

IIRC in the original story, the evil queen doesn’t just ask the huntsman to bring back Snow White’s heart. He spares the heroine and brings back a pig’s heart. The evil queen then eats it raw.

I think it was a deer’s heart, but the rest is correct.

To be precise: he takes Snow White to the forest to kill her, but feels pity for her, releases her and tells her to run away. He then shoots a deer instead and brings it’s heart to the evil queen.

OK, that sounds about like what I always assumed, but I was second guessing myself, thinking I was copying plot elements from Cinderella to fill in the blanks. Guess not!

In the movie it’s definitely the heart of a pig, I distinctly remember the mirror ratting out the huntsman in rhyme.

Yeah, I could me remembering incorrectly.

My favorite take on Snow White was in the dark, weird and wonderful comic book Nightmares & Fairy Tales.

In that one, the huntsman does kill Snow White and take out her heart. She rises as an undead thing. Without her wondrous heart radiating love and compassion, she is angry and evil. She stalks and kills the huntsman and the evil queen. Then, she puts her heart back in her chest. This restores her to life and goodness. She lives happily ever after.

These are good questions. :cowboy_hat_face:

So a hart heart?

They had a hart to heart.

FWIW. The trope of evil step mother long predates the Grimms’ collection but it isn’t so clear that the original tales they collected were not actually mothers.

When Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm set about collecting and streamlining German fairy tales in the early 19th century, they were mildly scandalized by how many of them contained evil mothers. “They changed a lot of the mothers and mothers-in-law to stepmothers,” Tatar explained, in an effort to preserve the “sanctity of motherhood.”