You are wise beyond your years pepperland girl.
Thank you aha.
Aha,
I am sorry that this argument between us became so heated or personal. I am sorry that I insulted your teaching skills, parental skills, etc.; however, please try to understand where my anger was based. I was offended, perhaps justifiably to some lesser extent, that you came to this board and judged that I was incapable of showing social courtesy or a train of though beyond sex or food; it seemed to me that these judgements were based solely upon screening your own experience for rude 15 year olds and then applying those experiences to all 15 year olds all of the time. In the end, I guess that TVeblen is right, it is unfortunate that anyone talks with someone else like this. I do not know who said it, but I guess that this issue can simply be summed up as, “courtesy is the KY Jelly of social intercourse.”
Threemae
This has got to be one of THE greatest threads I’ve read in a looooong time. Is it over so soon?
Come on, I say bring on Round 2!
The fight’s not over if one is left standing.
Ps. Threemae, I heard Aha called you a weenie.
Yeah, there is nothing like a disagreement between a teacher, the many of which think that they deserve sainthood and the salary of Michael Jorden for teaching people’s brats and not understanding that if they actually knew something they would be DOING it instead, and a 15 year old who thinks that racism equals age discrimination, not realizing that eventually they will get older while a black person will never become white (unless you’re Michael Jackson).
Whew! (as he dives for cover under a near by desk!) 
::tapes prosser mouth shut:: shhhhhhhhhhhhh be good! stop being such an instigator!
Okay threemae apologized so lets all go out for ice cream!
<Sputter, sputter> WHAT?
I hope that’s a lame attempt at humor–if it is, it’s very lame.
Stofsky
If you can read this, thank a teacher who knows how to teach.
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BTW, that’s many of whom.
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Huh?
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People don’t become teachers because they can’t do something, they become teachers because they want to teach. Mostly. if anything, a teacher is someone who knows the material well enough to pass it on to other people.
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Pay attention to them (soon to be us). They/we know a lot of useful shit. Like how to avoid a run-on sentence.
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I’m not even going to TOUCH the grammar/spelling here.
I knew I should have ducked sooner.
I guess the last part of my post wasn’t enough to indicate that I was just being (mostly) idiotic.
Actually, my mother taught me to read before I went to school. I spent the remaining years in school trying to understand why the teachers were making it more difficult than it really was.
- Read it again with lots of sarcasm.
- In my experience all the people I have known who want to become teachers are doing so because their parents were teachers. A total of five people all with teachers as parents. I don’t know anyone else who became a teacher without having teaching parents.
- I should listen to you because you’re going to be a teacher? What have you done that I should listen to you? I had a business teacher in college who was worth listening to. He was an engineer and had worked for IBM, Proctor & Gamble, and Kellogs for many years before retiring and starting teaching. Granted you may have some useful information, but you seem to assume that once you have finished college/university that you have all the knowledge you need to do the job. Unfortunately, for all those poor kids out there, you do not. From your acerbic response I’ll stick by my supposition that you desire sainthood.
- I think I spelled “Jorden” wrong (Jordan, Jordon?). What else did I spell wrong? Not that I really care as I am not an English teacher, nor ever claimed to be. And (my GOD! A conjunction at the beginning of a sentence! Head for the hills!), as to grammer and run on sentences, it was a rant. Rants have run on sentences and poor grammar and aren’t meant to compete with the works of Shakespeare.
So, there! 
Homer wrote:
Grammar and spelling aside, does anyone find this statement a little strange?
You just don’t strike me as the GQ type, Homer.
Yeah, I read GQ, Maxim, Playboy, Reader’s Digest, Scientific American, PC Gamer, Motor Trend, Hot Rod, Custom Classic Truck, Wired, Newsweek, and Entertainment Weekly.
Of course, what I meant was General Questions.
–Tim
So all cops are worthless because they tend to come from families of cops? Perhaps, just maybe, it might be (I’m trying to avoid using a bad name here after a comma), Sparky (see, I did it), that children see their parents with emotionally rewarding, albeit fiscally draining, careers and decide that they might like to help other people too instead of just make money for themselves. Maybe?
Take me on. I am a teacher; I’ve taught university-level first year composition for 6 years. What have I done? I’ve also worked in the corporate world as a buyer, personnel manager, technical writer, accountant, and even secretary. Listen, Sparky, you’re full of shit. None of the undergrad business classes I took were worth fly-crap in the real world. And I took them from people who had “been in the real world.”
First, caring about good communication is not, or at least should not be, limited to English teachers. We’ll forgive the run-on sentences, as common communication allows for bending the rules. But for fuck’s sake, at least spell grammar correctly when you’re claiming not to care about it. Anything else, idgit?
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So all cops are worthless because they tend to come from families of cops? Perhaps, just maybe, it might be (I’m trying to avoid using a bad name here after a comma), Sparky (see, I did it), that children see their parents with emotionally rewarding, albeit fiscally draining, careers and decide that they might like to help other people too instead of just make money for themselves. Maybe?
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If you look at my quote I said that, “In my experience…”. I did not say all teachers are worthless, but it seemed that the majority of the ones I had were fresh out of school and read from the book (which I can do on my own, thank you). The ones that I had any success with were the ones that added to what the book was stating with their own experiences and anecdotes. They also had the experience to answer some of the challenges that I offered. I don’t take kindly to someone telling me something is gospel without some form of proof.
Fiscally draining? I already accused you of wanting sainthood, now you want the salary of Michael Jordan? Quit making my points for me.
As I am not an expert in English I have no way of competing with your stated expertise. If you want to talk LAN/WAN, or O/S, fine, I can compete most effectively. I also don’t remember stating that you were a bad teacher. I don’t know you, but you seem to have a problem with people disagreeing with you. I don’t think I would have done well in your class, although I did quite well in the composition classes I did take. I made a point of doing exactly what the teacher said to not do when writing. It seems they liked the result (made them happy) and I didn’t have to parrot their stuff back to them to do it (made me happy).
Lets see how much of an idgit I am, ok. I took two composition courses, one at College and one at University. I got "A"s in both. In the first one the teacher gave me a book at the end of the course stating that he gave it to the best student he taught each year. The other course the teacher like one of my stories so much she submitted it to a national competition. Unfortunately, it wasn’t good enough to make the final cut and was not published.
Now, if I am an idgit, as you state, then somehow my teachers in english were worse than idgits to have praised me like they did. This would go to prove my hypothesis that not all teachers are worth sainthood and high salaries even when they demand it (of course, I would still be an idgit, crap!). If my teachers were not idgits then I can not possibly be as much of an idgit as you seem to think. This also give my points some validity.
Oh, and look a few words later in my post. You will see grammar spelled correctly. Hopefully, you don’t give your students "F"s for the same sort of offence.
threemae I hate it that you took my ain’t-that-just-like-a-teenager poke in the ribs so personally. But the world is full of poke in the rib statements like those and you can’t go around life defending them all. You’ll have an ulcer before your 18. I also hope upon reflection that you understand that it wasn’t meant personally. The two people I cherish the most in this world are both teenagers.
Apology accepted not heres a beer…oops pepsi and a chair because it looks like ole Uzi and stofsky are heating up a debate of their own.
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Offense. ::snicker::
Silver fire you are soooo bad
I know. 
Oh, I was hoping that someone would do that. Hehe. Honour - honor, colour - color, offense - offence, etc. Offence is quite acceptable, it’s even written that way in the Constitution. It is a mighty big assumption that we all post from the same country, ain’t it. Cecil has been “Fighting ignorance since 1973”. He says nothing about doing so only in the United States. So, before you go all giggly over how smart you are and slinging ignorance claims all over the place, please take the time to look in the mirror first. Plus, I never claimed to be an English teacher/expert, nor did I bring up the issue about spelling or grammar, so who’s more the fool? The person who doesn’t make any claims to be an expert, or the person who does and gets it wrong?