Now, surely all of us can recall lots and lots of drama created over the years right on these very boards by our own Liberal, indicating a similar spirit of meanness and (yep, I’ll say it) confusion. He doesn’t have age to blame it on, nor was he held captive by the North Vietnamese for more than five years and tortured. Bud Day has both the Medal of Honor and the Air Force Cross, among numerous other decorations and honors. Liberal has, well, nothing.
So perhaps Liberal should keep this in mind if he needs to criticize the likes of Bud Day. He doesn’t have much cause to call him confused or doddering or mean - frankly, he doesn’t have the judgment to make these calls. And in thread after thread lately, he’s been doing the same thing pretty indiscriminately. I’m sure I’m not the only person finding it tiresome.
Do you want us to forgive Bud Day for his participation in one of the most disgraceful political efforts in recent history? We are to forgive him because he has suffered so much? Or do you want us to give him a more receptive audience, because he deserves such attention for the same reasons?
If the first, I should like some measure of repentance. For the second, well: no. Just no.
Doesn’t wash. If Liberal’s comments deserve a Pitting, they must be somehow beyond the pale, no? If this fellow doesn’t deserve the comments made, then you could just as easily say so in the GD thread in which they occured.
Unless those comments are so utterly misplaced as to require and demand a Pitting. Are they?
Jesus, this pious crap is tired. If a person involves themselves in public politics, they can’t expect to be treated with kid gloves. Military service isn’t a prophylaxis against criticism, and really; “confused and mean”? I can hardly imagine Mr Day is crying himself to sleep.
You could very well criticise Lib for poisoning the well in that thread (as Sinaijon did), and I’d certainly have agreed with you if you were just complaining about his excessive vituperation towards McCain and his supporters in general (particularly in light of his previous tendency to berate “leftists” for demonising their opposition), but this is just lame. “Don’t be cruel towards the war vet who’ll never read this in a million years”? Oh, my aching heart.
Well, let me ask a question - there was general agreement in another thread that it was rather distasteful for political opponents to be called unpatriotic. How is it an improvement that they be called senile and mean?
Liberal could have made his point equally well had he called Bud Day wrong - he could have even used stronger criticism of his position than this. But he had to go way beyond this and attack the man’s stability.
Mr Moto, are we to assume you would be consistent in similarly roundly condemning the insulting of a decorated and significantly disabled war veteran serving as a United States Senator by his opponent, as happened in Georgia a few years back? Semmed like there was lot of silence on your part on that issue, though I could be remembering wrong.
Yeah, I don’t understand this. If Mother Teresa went around poking little children in the eye, she would deserve reprobation regardless of her other good works.
Yeah, pretty weak as a single instance. You’d have done better to point out the entire pattern of over-the-top Obama worship and mindless McCain slamming of which this is just a tiny piece.
Here I thought Liberal was getting pitting for this trolling gem. It would make me sick to quote it, so I’ll paraphrase:
Hey fellow Obamalurvers, let’s debate Omaba. Topic for debate: Is he the most wonder man on earth? Is he the most wonderful man in the galaxy? Is he the most perfect man in the universe? How superior to God is he already? Let’s debate!
How many of these threads is he going to be allowed to start, in Great Debates of all places?
I wasn’t exactly silent - I thought the ad was pretty harsh but fair game since it was an attack on what Cleland did - namely his votes in the Senate. I didn’t and don’t regard that as attacking someone’s patriotism. Is it attacking his political position or his judgment? Sure. I don’t see that as off limits in campaigning, though.
What we have here is calling an opponent senile, just to attempt to discredit their positions without having to confront them directly. Never did Liberal say why what Bud Day did was wrong - and frankly, I don’t think he was, necessarily. His criticisms of Kerry in that campaign were very specific. But that point can be debated without an ad hominem.
