Nope.All I’s dotted. all T’s crossed.
If you’re going to accuse me of doing something illegal I request you present some actual evidence. Good luck with that.
I’m not accusing you of anything. I don’t know you from Adam.
I’m just pointing out what you are saying.
“All i’s dotted, all t’s crossed”. indeed.
What would cause law enforcement to “trace a crime gun back to your shop”? The vast majority of guns used in mass shootings and domestic violence were legally acquired, including the guns owned by that fine specimen of humanity, the Sandy Hook shooter. Guns that fall into the hands of children who, accidentally or otherwise, shoot other children – a uniquely American problem – were probably registered to that mythical creation of the NRA, the “law-abiding gun owner”. Why would anyone “trace” a gun to your shop and harass you about it if it was legally sold? It’s true that the majority of guns used by career criminals tend to be illegally obtained, but – as I noted above – that says nothing at all about gun deaths due to a criminal act, negligence, accident, or suicide caused by a legal gun.
The legality of the gun culture that allows dealers of death like yourself to operate with impunity is precisely the root cause of the American gun problem. If you had any decency or any sense of morality, instead of proliferating the instruments of death and “laughing all the way to the bank” (your words) you’d be an active member of one of the law enforcement associations campaigning for gun control [PDF link]. But you don’t, and you’re not.
Suicide isn’t a crime. It’s horrific, sad, and selfish.
But it’s also the ultimate act of control over ones own life.
Selfish? Way to be dismissive of someone suffering from a mental health issue.
You appear to want to change the subject.
But I’ll say one thing about the matter of suicide and why it’s relevant to the overall story of gun carnage in America. This pretty much sums it up:
… more people in this country kill themselves with guns than with all other intentional means combined, including hanging, poisoning or overdose, jumping, or cutting. Though guns are not the most common method by which people attempt suicide, they are the most lethal. About 85 percent of suicide attempts with a firearm end in death. (Drug overdose, the most widely used method in suicide attempts, is fatal in less than 3 percent of cases.)
Guns & Suicide | Harvard Public Health Magazine | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
The thing about suicide by firearm is that it’s almost always fatal, whereas someone attempting suicide by other means is more likely to survive and to be saved and treated. In distinct contrast to the US, the rate of suicide attempts by firearm in Canada – where guns are highly regulated – is just 16%. It just reinforces the fact that guns are instruments of death, whether due to criminal acts, accident, negligence, or self-inflicted.
Whenever there is a mass shooting how do you think they are always able to report something like “So and so just bought that rifle last week”? They always trace thos guns back if they are able. And by the way, that kid stole those guns from his mother. He didn’t buy them.
We need a new Goodwins Law specifically for the SDMB. Instead of every conversation going to the Nazis it goes to gun control. 
Godwin’s Law. No, the sarcasm of Godwin’s Law is that internet conversations tend to devolve into inappropriate and hyperbolic analogies. There’s nothing inappropriate or hyperbolic in citing facts about gun violence when talking to an arms dealer like yourself.
“Stole”? His mother bought the guns for him in the hope and expectation that the great American tradition of shooting things would help achieve mother-child bonding for an apparently troubled child. She was at least partly right – the kid ultimately responsible for the Sandy Hook massacre apparently found that shooting things was pretty cool.
So, as far as you know, none of the guns you’ve sold in “the decades [you’ve] been doing this” have been used in mass shootings. Congratulations! But how many have been used to kill individual humans, either intentionally or accidentally? How many have been used in homicides and suicides? How many have been used to illegally kill innocent animals? How many will be used in such killings in the many years yet to come?
Can you ever know the answers to those questions? Do you even give a shit?
Just when I think my opinion of the pittee couldn’t get any lower, he comes in shooting off his dumbass mouth and I find it can go a bit lower.
Hope you get to enjoy your blood money this holiday season! It appears you’ll spend it completely guilt free.
He’s laughing all the way to the bank. That is all.
He was very clear that he’s never had a single crime gun traced back to his shop. There’s a wildly large gap between, what you said [paraphrased], “as far as I know none of the guns I’ve sold have been used in crimes” and what he said “never had a single crime gun traced back to my shop”.
He didn’t say he’s never sold a gun that was later used for a crime, he said a gun used in a crime has never been traced back to his shop.
Ain’t none of them innocent! They know what they did. /s
I knew Mike Godwin, I don’t think he’d like someone using his name the way pkbites is suggesting. 
(Mike was legal counsel for Wikimedia and I used to talk with him about legal issues on Wikipedia.)
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Jebus, I misspelled a word. Why don’t you shoot me.
I know a place where you can get a good deal on a gun.
Here’s the problem with that, ‘illegally obtained’ ain’t a brand. When criminals, even one’s without careers, aren’t carrying Glocks and S&Ws and Colts (IE legally manufactured and legally sold firearms) then those folks can give themselves a nice pat on the back about what they’ve done to solve the problem.
Folks that are currently patting themselves on the back because they’re “All I’s dotted. all T’s crossed” shouldn’t be, they ain’t done shit.
Please note, he never claimed that he never sold any guns used in crimes. He only claims that he’s never been caught at it. Which is really easy to do when the people who are supposed to be doing the catching corruptly insist on always siding with their own, no matter what they do or what happens. The fact that @pkbites has never been caught selling a gun used in crime isn’t praise for his gun-selling; it’s condemnation of the police.
Bragging is what I’d call it.
You guys are making some pretty shitty accusations and stretching what I said.
I have never had the BATFE walk into my store and say “we want to see your bound book. One of the guns found at a mass shooting scene tracks from the distributor to your dealership and we want to see if it was purchased by the shooter or someone else (aka a straw purchase or if it was stolen from the original purchaser).”
It’s just never happened. And it doesn’t to most dealers as the majority of firearms are not used in crimes and in a country off 330+ million people mass shootings are actually a rare event considering the ratio.
This trend of trying to paint me as crooked because you disapprove of the legal activity I’m engaged in is a reflection upon your own ignorance and bias. Even the Brady campaign says only 5% of all licensed dealers are operating outside the law. I am not obe of them.
Just curious here. Aren’t all the guns illegally owned now actually legally manufactured and sold to someone? It’s that someone who managed to lose track of the gun, isn’t it?
We’re going to do that argument again? The victim of a theft is to blame for criminals having guns?