He is clearly a dunderhead that believes that he is clever by concluding that safety valves are stupid.
One can get more from a system that way, but only for a while, eventually he is is like the fireman that had his engine blew on his face.
In other words, the ding dong thinks that highly contagious ICU patients are the same as all the other patients.
You know, it’s bad enough to have people spreading disinformation in politics, but to be doing this in health-related threads during a pandemic really diminishes the boards. I’m wondering how this isn’t breaking board rules? I’m not buying that responses to his garbage provides valuable information because he keeps bringing up the same crap over and over again. That does not move conversations along in a productive manner that is of value to readers.
Has anyone reported the problem posts?
I see the rules in the quarantine forum but I’m not sure if how they would apply to him.
Because, at least for what is being brought up as the example here, he is not putting forth any “disinformation” … on the other hand a claim that ICU patients are “highly contagious” is simply wrong information (peak contagiousness is way down by time someone is ill enough to be in the ICU) that is also immaterial to the issue that was at hand.
For planning purposes having a formula that “adjusts” not for actual capacity but for how much capacity can be safely used up before there is not enough for anticipated other non-COVID needs makes perfect sense. It is however a failure of public communication to release that as an unexplained figure of “zero% capacity”, and a failure of the media (and anyone else who simply parrots the number) in understanding what they are reporting, or in fact understanding it but going with the more clickable headline/lede, as they did. If the latter then it is indeed spinning the data into disinformation.
FWIW to the best of my knowledge when reports come out saying there are no open ICU beds at a specific hospital, the usual meaning is that there are is in fact no ability to put another patient into ICU level care with any diagnosis until another patient has been discharged, be it by death, or transfer to a lower level of care or different location. It does get complicated as other units can be repurposed as ICU beds (assuming staff capacity), so capacity can be over 100% of usual in special circumstances. This was an issue for reporting in Texas for example.
A desire to communicate the seriousness of something that you do not feel some others appreciate should not justify communicating in ways that misinform.
How nice of you to purposely misinterpret my post when I was replying to @GIGObuster’s post regarding the costs incurred by a hospital comparing those who have Covid (a contagious disease) vs those who do not have covid. Besides that, what @GIGObuster brought in was only one example of many, many examples of derailing threads.
You do you.
Me? I look at what was quoted as what is being replied to, which was part of a conversation about media reports of “0% ICU capacity” … no idea where the conversation about “costs incurred by a hospital comparing those who have Covid (a contagious disease) vs those who do not have covid” is in the trainwreck that that forum has become (mainly wrecked by those who will brook no heresy), let alone in that thread, let alone what the point of such a discussion would be (extremely little of the cost of care of COVID-19 patients is a result of infection control practices expenses, who are relatively not “highly contagious” by the time they are in ICU, with the exception of those being ventilated as such can aerosolize).
You doing you is skewed off the plane of reality, but I learned way back in medical school psychiatry rotation that one should not try to argue someone out of their delusions. So okay.
Someone mentions two cases that were counted as COVID when they shouldn’t have been. I mention there has been, if anything, undercounting, given the thousands of excess deaths last year. Ignorant Fuckstick says, “so, you’re saying that all the excess deaths are due to COVID”? What a dangerous, ignorant asshole.
He got a warning for that, fyi.
Sweet! Well deserved for that bullshit.
I honestly can’t figure the justification from not banning him from all the Quarantine Zone threads.
Where else does the Fuckstick even post?
Repeating the same stupid shit is trolling in my opinion. The problem is, which piece of shit post do you flag? You’d have to flag the whole thread and more than one thread.
Why does Aqualung sit on the bench by the playground?
Nowhere else, pretty much. Other than a couple of posts in a BBQ Pit thread (about COVID), you have to go back to December 8th for a non-QZ post from him (and that was repeated posts in an ATMB thread complaining about moderation in the QZ).
Other than those COVID-related forays to other fora, he hasn’t posted anywhere but QZ since at least late October (that’s the point where I got tired of scrolling through his activity log).
So, he’s just trolling the QZ to present misinformation? Lovely.
To watch all the pretty panties spread COVID disinformation?
I guess he’s the Huey_Freeman of the QZ in that way.
Here’s the response I got in that thread:
Apparently, disinformation on medical matters is not a moddable matter anymore.
Maybe they should invite handy back, then.
This absolute waste of a human is having another effect, by continuing to troll all the Quarantine/COVID threads posters are vacating them completely.
The result is that it is stifling those threads - I am starting to think that this is the intention, the aim being to piss off so many folks that debate ceases and that this poster will be about the only person posting in them and thus will have colonised those threads - which in turn would make it appear that this is position or outlook of the SDMB.
It’s very much like the schoolkid who has to have the last word and then they have “won” - except that this is not some childish game, it has real consequencies and could lead vulnerable or credulous folk into a world of counter information.
This poster is simply dangerous not just to those reading the rubbish being spouted but also to the SDMB as a whole - this could easily encourage the deliberate disinformers and damage the reputation of SDMB as a whole, not to mention it is causing the sort of strife that will prompt other posters to leave.