Pitting SDMB medical advice

Remember Giraffe, they could also be a doctor if they’ve earned a JD. I have and so I can state with a medical certainty that death has been outlawed. And remember to put a pubic hair under your pillow if you want the Herpes Fairy to visit you.

when they outlaw death only outlaws will have JDs?

Okay, now I’m laughing helplessly.

Daniel

So anybody with a full wax is kinda screwed, eh? They don’t sell faux pubes at the Dollar Store, do they?

There’s an ugly mental picture-sweaty third-world workers shaving their pubes into plastic bottles for shipping to the US. :eek:

When I read it, I thought “this might be up there with ‘penis ensues’”… :slight_smile:

I think he actually said “asinine”. Or was it “assinine”? Someone fucked up the spelling, but I don’t remember if it was Dex or not.

I am not an MD. I am degreed, but that’s not important.

Jackmannii made some good points, and he is more up to date on his research than I am. That being said, his posts were rude and over dramatic.

Yes, you can transmit herpes even if you don’t think you are having an outbreak. He’s right there. The question is- how likely is that?

If it is “likely”( as he says), and you can also pass Genital Herpes on without sexual intercourse (you can)- then, short of getting out the Plague bell (unclean, UNCLEAN!!!) or a full body condom, there’s not much you can do. You can pass Herpes by kissing. (Not AIDS, of course, unless you both have open sores in your mouth).

I stand by my **MORAL **advice:
"1. During an outbreak-Never have unprotected sex without a latex covering over the sores. This includes even Oral sex. It’s best to skip sex altogether (well, if you both know you both have it, then it’s up to you) during those times, but…

  1. During an outbreak- fully inform your partner. It’s best to inform them anyway, but…

  2. When using Gym equiptment, like stationary bicycles- wipe your sweat off, and before you get on, wipe it down unless it has been sitting for a while. If it is still “hot and sweaty” you can catch/spread herpes from it.

  3. In general- don’t have unprotected sex without being in a long term monogamous relationship."

Do note that I included #4. I think these are good MORAL points, but they are not MEDICAL advice. My advice is not a sure proof against Herpes. But as as JillGat said- many dudes have Herpes but don’t know it. Thus, even if we were to break out the plague bells for those who know they have it- you could still get infected.

There are no “lives at stake here”. Herpes is mostly annoying, admitly to some much worse. The mortality rate is next to 0, however (has there been any killed by Herpes?). The Flu kills thousands every year, and we don’t make those with that LETHAL disease wear the plague bell, so why over-react with Herpes?

That being said- honesty is still the best policy. That’s my MORAL advice.

My *medical advice *is: don’t get medical advice on a MB, no matter what they claim their credentials are. You are not their patient, they haven’t examined you, they don’t have your medical history. The only advice they should give is: “go see your doctor”. That’s what I say.

How about the most important point of moral advice:

Tell your about-to-be sex partner that you have herpes so that they can decide for themselves what level of risk they’re willing to take with their own health?

If you know you’ve got herpes, or any other disease that you can pass to someone else, and you don’t tell them before they get into any kind of contact with you that could spread the disease, you’re a bad, bad person.

There’s no possible way to force you to tell them, and they may not find out if you don’t. Of course, only an asshole of the worst kind would take a risk with someone else’s health when that person doesn’t know about the risk.

I don’t care if you’re an MD, JD, RD, or Billy Dee Williams, it is wrong to pretend that keeping your HSV+ status from your partner because ‘it’s unlikely’ for them to catch it when you’re not having an outbreak. It’s not about how much risk is there, it’s that there is a risk that exists. People deserve to know all of the risks when making a decision.

Yeah, and Dex came through all unscathed didn’t he? Now if she had gone all pirate on his ass…

It was “assinine”:

Whenever anyone here asks for medical facts, the doctors are always very nice to help them.

Whenever they ask for medical advice, all I ever see the docs posting is “See your doctor.”

Not even close. But it is lame.

It is generally impossible to know the training and professional status of anyone posting on the SDMB (unless you know them in person), and so obviously one should not accept any statement of medical opinion as gospel. Recognizing that, on the infrequent occasions I post here wearing my MD hat, I generally also link to recognized medical/research sources so that others can verify what I am saying. I don’t tell people what their conditions are or how to treat them.

I am not going to try yet AGAIN here to correct a poster who believes that “everyone” on the SDMB has herpes, that it’s rare to spread it without symptoms or that you can get it from inanimate objects. There’s a whole 'nother thread better suited to hopeless efforts to fight ignorance.
As noted by others, it is extremely common for physicians (and PhD researchers, for that matter) to criticize each other (I could tell you stories…). If we had all taken some sort of Sacred Oath not to speak ill of another doctor*, there would be thunderbolts raining down like crazy, both here on the boards and IRL.
Never never never take medical advice from Dr. Demento, Dr. Zhivago or The Rug Doctor. You are warned. :smiley:

Don’t hospitals have entire committees devoted to constant feedback and criticism of medical decisions?

In that case, maybe it would be prudent when you do get into medical debates to insert a tiny disclaimer along the lines of “I am not a medical doctor, this is not medical advice”. That would have cleared a lot of stuff up.

Ya can’t watch out for all the world’s confusions. It would never have occurred to me that anyone would think the “Dr” in “DrDeth” was a proclamation of a medical degree.

However, if you are confused on this point, let me offer my own advice: never take the health advice of a physician named Dr. Death.

Daniel

Not to mention all the scrutiny involving state medical boards, MDs in government agencies and public interest groups, professional conferences and journals, expert witnesses at trial and a slew of public and Internet forums and websites.

Everyone does think I’m a new automobile though, right?

It would occur to me that at least, people might be confused. I mean, if I were posting to a thread about translation with the screen name translatorboi, don’t you think poeple might assume I was a translator?

What I said was “It is likely that everyone posting here has herpes”. Since at that time I was including both Herpes, and we’d only had a few posters, most of whom are older, and AFAIK, sexually experienced- do you dispute that in an average thread here- “MOST” would have one form of herpes or another- or even both? (there are several other Herpes Viruses in the family, note)