Pitting the asshole that Will.Not.Move.Out!

I’m engaged to be married, and my fiancee’s mom suggested we rent her rental house. Its a great commute for both of us and a nice big place, so we agreed. My fiancee is like her mom’s property manager. After the renter’s last year long lease was up, she let it go month-to-month. Back in June, she told the renter that he would need to move out Sept 1st.

He acted like it was no big deal, but the beginning of August was when problems started. He refused to pay rent, said he didn’t know when he’d be able to move out, all this bullshit :mad:

So this pit thread is to you, renter, for violating your lease by subletting god-knows-how-many-people, messing up the place, being late on the rent frequently, bouncing checks twice, and forcing my fiancee’s family to take you to court just to get your ass out of there. Not to mention the stress on my fiancee who is preparing for a wedding and just started grad school this month :mad:

Fuck you with the fire of a thousand suns. I’ve been given ‘formal’ eviction notices in two properties I rented when I was on a month-to-month lease, and both times I found another place to live within a month and had vacated the premeses well before the deadline. In eight years of renting, I’ve never been late on the rent or violated the lease in any way- in fact I’ve had such a good relationship with my current landlord that he was okay with me continuing to rent my apartment even though I had told him I’d be moving (since I THOUGHT I WOULD BE :mad: ).

Just move in with the dude.

. . . subletting god-knows-how-many-people, messing up the place, being late on the rent frequently, bouncing checks twice, and forcing my fiancee’s family to take you to court just to get your ass out of there. (from the OP)

I’m just curious…he does all that and your family doesn’t start eviction proceedings until he refuses to move?

Sounds like a grade-A winner to me! I’m looking for something to criticize about the situation, but honestly, I just feel sorry for you and your fiancee. I hope you get it all sorted out and get the money out of him.

Cheer up. You’re going to need a jumbo-size tub of spackling paste to fix the holes he’s going to punch and kick in the walls, and probably a hazmat suit to wear while you clean up all the human waste that’s everywhere it oughtn’t be.

I knew a guy in the 80s that removed the front door from an apartment that some renter would not leave. He left pretty much right away after that.

Not suggesting that you do that, nor not even sure if it is legal, even owning the building.

Yeah, quite sure it’s illegal to remove the door. Or change the locks, etc.

However, if you could kill the guy and make it look like an accident, you can be prosecuted for something they can’t prove! Remember: they always ask you on applications if you’ve been ***convicted ***of a felony.

Sounds to me like they are – see the “forcing my fiancee’s family to take you to court just to get your ass out of there” line. That sounds like they’re starting the eviction process, but that can take months to get all the way to forcible eviction by police.

lazy, Morgen’s point was that even with the guy’s prior history, they were *just now *starting the eviction (i.e., expressing surprise that it was the refusal to move out on time that was the final straw, versus any of the previous offenses).

I believe Morgenstern’s point is that the family should have begun eviction proceedings as soon as it became clear that the tenant was violating the terms of the lease (by doing things such as subletting), which possibly were known about well in advance of the current situation.

ETA: Ninja’d by Guns, dammit!

Ugghhh, my condolences…

Then again you havent really suffered until a tenant moves into a virtually like new house, cranks up meth lab (seriously), does SOOOO much damage that whens its all fixed back up the real estate people tell you that you can go down to the court house and have some paperwork done that will change the build date from 1970 something to “now”(or something like that).

That shit they show on TV about crack/meth houses looking like an episode of hoarders? They aint making that stuff up.

The upside of that was I now know I could almost build a house by myself in less than year :slight_smile:

It took awhile to sell my house. The entire 18 months it was on the market I wasn’t living in it, it sat empty. People approached me about renting, but it’s shit like this that made me never consider becoming a landlord.

Moohoohahaha.

The day is mine!

Down the Gold Coast (I’m talking 70’s here folks) there was a guy called Bob the Gob who would fix the problem of squatters or late payers. It was generally in shitty old places about to be demolished anyway.

He would seal or close the back door then send some mongrel aggressive dogs through the front door- squatters would be going out through any available window.

I don’t suggest this would work now or should. He also had a tow truck business.

Whose name are the utilities in? e.g. water etc.? If in the landlord’s name, I wonder if she could have them turned off, without incurring legal wrath.

“But your honor, I’d given him notice to move out, I honestly thought he’d just forgotten to return the keys! There’s no reason to have power and water in an unoccupied house, we needed to do renovations on it anyway!”.

Alternately, she might want to go to him and say “look, here’s 500 bucks. If you’re out of here in 48 hours, without doing damage, it’s yours”. Sucks to even consider that but sometimes it’s worth it to get rid of the idiot quickly.

Probably cheaper than eviction proceedings, too.

BE VERY CAREFUL about this sorta thing. Its my understanding that in some states you can do a very minor thing “to” a tenant and if they decide to sue, your ass is grass in a BIG way. Logic, reason, the law, and what’s fair and just are certainly not extactly the same things in many jurisdictions.

Just an aside. I had some issues about this sorta thing one and I got some good advice. The funny part is it was from a Walmart “rent a cop”. He wanted to chat, I was having a bad day, told him my troubles and he helped me out.

I think you’ve lost all plausible deniability once you’ve started legal proceedings to have him removed.

I never understand why assholes stay in places they are not wanted. Dude has to know eventually he is going to be out of there so why delay the process? Is he that much in the hole and without any resources at all? I have piss poor relatives but if I ever landed in a shithole of bad luck, my son and I could go crash at someone’s house rather than stay where we would be forced out anyway.

I kind of like the idea of moving in with the jerk though. Okay, not really LIKE it but in terms of trying to get him out it could work. Go over at 5 am and blast music and start cleaning as you prepare to move some of your stuff in (not really). Just be an annoying fuck until he decides it’s easier to go. Probably not legal though it should be.

My parents were landlords for quite a while - laws vary from place to place, of course, but it seems like most of them are stacked in favour of the tenants, and when tenants decide to be dicks, it can be a long, arduous procedure to get rid of them. I wish your fiancée’s family godspeed with this, Incubus.

ETA: The tenant isn’t a veteran, is he? :slight_smile: