Plot holes and errors that don't exist.

Story of my life, bro.

Here’s what always confused me: what timeline did the “loser” versions of 2015 Marty and family originate from? They obviously didn’t come from a 1985 that Marty, Doc, and Jennifer disappeared from and never returned to. And they didn’t come from a 1985 where Marty decided not to drag-race the guy at the end of Part III, thus preventing the hand injury that ruined his music career. So they must have originated from a timeline where Marty did race the guy/get injured. But that Marty obviously hadn’t been to 2015 to see his future self, otherwise he would have acted differently. So at some point there existed a Marty who didn’t go to 2015 and thus did get injured in the race. In other worlds, we never see the timeline/sequence of events that leads to the future Marty we see in 2015. Right? Or no?

The “loser” family of 2015 exists because Marty hasn’t time-traveled yet to change it. While in the future, he sees what his life would have been like if Doc had never come back and said “Something’s got to done about your kids!”

And I think it was Marty’s parents who explain “Marty’s never been the same since the car accident,” referencing the one we see in BTTF 3. When he decides not to race, he erases the “loser” family and the future becomes unwritten (to us).

BTTF uses a VERY different system of time travel that is not internally consistent(think first Terminator film) time is fluid and slowly changes and reroutes.

I gave up trying to make sense of it.

Wibbly wobbley, timey wimey …

Yup, we do see this timeline’s 1985, but only briefly, at the end of part 1, from the time Marty returns to 1985 until the point where Marty, Jennifer, & Doc leave without needing roads.

You may be right, now that I think about it. :smack:

Which makes my previous judgement about the wisdom of the process that much stronger.

"Whomever can we elect to lead our nation to a bright, shining future? Take away our debt, fix the health care crisis, get us out of the recession? "
“I know, let’s elect a 14 year old girl. She’ll know what to do.”

No, I am thinking of Firefly, I did hear rumors about the pilot having to be filmed and reworked. This was when the pilot aired, so Dollhouse hadn’t been created yet. But I never got any confirmation on that, it was just a rumor I heard. Not that the script was reworked, mind you, just that it was refilmed because the actors had settled into their roles better or something - the acting had been dreadful. Of course, it’s possible what the person I heard it from was thinking about was that Whedon shot the 2 hour pilot (called “Serenity”), but Fox didn’t like it, so they shot “The Train Job” as the new pilot and it aired first.

That must be it, because there’s nothing about the Firefly pilot that looks like it was changed after the show started airing.

And she would do better than Obama :stuck_out_tongue:
I always got the impression that the Queen was supposed to be a figurehead and that what set Amidala apart was that she was taking a stand and doing something. Of course it was because Naboo was so peaceful for so long that none of the advisors could figure out how to deal with anything (do I wipe up and down or side to side?) and she took it on herself to save “her” planet.

Maybe there’s some sort of Ender’s Game thing going on here, with gifted girls taken from their families at a very young age and trained to be queen.

I hadn’t heard that theory, but I think it really makes sense. It would explain why she was wearing all those ridiculous costumes that served no purpose (other than to make the movie look exotic) which she stopped wearing once she was no longer queen.

Here’s one from a movie I’ve never even seen. I’ve heard complaints that a song in Kill Bill (a little Googling indicates it must be “Ode to O-Ren Ishii”) refers to the Lucy Liu character as being half Chinese, half Japanese, and half American. But that’s three halves! :eek:

First, I believe this is yet another example of the obscure literary device known as a “joke”. Second, in addition to sounding funny this description of O-Ren could easily be metaphorically, or even literally, true.

When I first heard of criticism of Kill Bill I assumed that the character had one Japanese parent and one Chinese parent and was additionally influenced by American culture to the extent that she was considered “half American”. The second possibility that occurred to me, and the one that Wikipedia tells me is correct, is that she had one Japanese parent and one Chinese-American (an American citizen of Chinese descent) parent. So O-Ren can be half Chinese, half Japanese, and half American because in this context “American” refers to a different characteristic than “Chinese”.

Keep in mind, there is an easy fix for that…

Indeed, I at least thought that was pretty apparent right from the get go. I could have sworn The Bride narrated that bit.

Indeed and on top of all that there is a scene where O-ren teaches her colleagues not to insult her mixed heritage.

He can’t help it. Alien is the Moby Dick to his Ahab.

:smiley:

It may be that the people who complained about this (and I’m pretty sure it happened here on the SDMB) understood what O-Ren’s background was but objected to her being described as half A, half B, and half C because they felt it was mathematically incorrect. But this is one of those things that only seems wrong if you don’t bother to think about what the words are actually referring to.

Plus she’s a queen of Naboo and a senator of the Galactic Government. There’s many countries where it is possible for someone to be a member of different levels of government in different capacities even simultaneously (in Spain we’ve had a few cases of people being for example Town Councilors and MPs, or TCs and EMPs).

The first sentence bears repeating. There’s no reason that someone can only become Queen on Naboo for the same reasons and under the same terms as, say, the Queen of England, or the Dancing Queen, or English rock band Queen.

I hear one guy became King of England because some chick gave him a sword in the middle of a bath. Government is wacky that way.

Well, you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!