Pluribus (New Vince Gilligan show on AppleTV)

It means the scene was shot in New Mexico where Super Beetles are easier to find. They didn’t go to Norway to film an ice hotel; so I really doubt they went to Paraguay to shoot a storage facility.

So we think the collective has secretly moved Manny to New Mexico? Maybe they hope he and Carol will distract each other from fighting the joined? No wonder he won’t eat the food. Last time he ate their food he woke up feeling like he’d been drugged, and the toilet water rotated the wrong direction.

Next thing you’re going to tell me is that Carol wasn’t really on top of that building, they didn’t really close one direction of I-25 and I-40, and the blur wasn’t atmospheric conditions, but bad compositing.

In case it’s not blatantly obvious, I was suggesting that in filming in the United States, the production staff didn’t bother to seek out a Brazilian-made Beetle. In other words, the presence of a Super Beetle suggests nothing.

Sometimes a Super Beetle is just a Super Beetle.

Under 99 % of circumstances I’d be 100 % convinced of that. But car choice means a lot to Gilligan … so only 98. :slightly_smiling_face:

Except that this car was seen only in the distance and only briefly. I think that’s very different from Walter White’s Pontiac Aztek.

Just a thought: flying the drone into a light pole seems a little stupid for people who have all the knowledge of human history, so…is it possible they did that intentionally as a way to get Carol away from the house for some reason? Maybe so they could get to Helen’s body?

The drone was flying low because of the weight of the load so I think flying into the street light was unintentional.

Yup, they were just trying their best in an unideal situation.

Having an emotional snit ignoring her seems kind of adolescent. And what if Carol has a fling with anoter hive mind while they are on the break?

The sex angle may come into play later on because Carol has admitted to being attracted to Zosia.

I’m with you. On last week’s podcast, they discuss how they had to make a NM storage facility look like it was shot in Paraguay by adding a lot of jungle-esque vegetation, etc. so the production most likely just used whatever car they had available to them, not thinking too hard about location availability. That episode wasn’t directed by Gilligan, so he even sounded surprised about what the production and art department had to do to dress up that scene / location.

Well, the way they went about it did seem a bit childish, but they are very justified in staying away from Carol.

Remember that when Carol lashed out at Zosia earlier, the hive mind had a collective seizure and millions died. So is it any wonder that they’re maintaining distance from her?

Yup, and that could be excused as unintentional but what she did to Zosia was entirely intended and must have hurt them quite a bit to cause the entire world to cry.

I don’t think their avoidance of her is childish at all. She tried to drug one of them and almost killed that person in order to find out a way to destroy the hive. They are unable to take hostile action against her, they always try to please her, but she consistently abuses their need to please her to hurt them and try to destroy them. Isolating themselves from her while still trying to fulfill her needs is the least hostile act they could possibly do while preserving their own existence.

The only proven imperative the hive has is for everyone to be happy. Carol literally made everyone in the world (save 12) cry. And, arguably, Carol is no less happy now that they have cleared out of her proximity. Win-Win.

Carol’s dilemma is she doesn’t want the Others back - she wants Zosia back and some allies to help cross-examine the Others and figure out a cure. The Others don’t want that, so it’ll take some doing to find out if any of them (Manu?) have received the message and replied.

Discovering the amber liquid is their food, and even whatever Carol saw may be all a ruse. In my book of ethics, allowing Carol to come to the (possibly) wrong conclusions and wasting her time is not lying.

Only Zosia has been worthy company for Carol, and seemed to get into some kind of “chill out” mode when they were having vodka grenades.

Drugging her for info is perhaps understandable, yet if we can believe Patrick Fabian it was sad, yet no hard feelings. Maybe Carol can try to get Zosia to “chill out” while trying to find (and bring back) the individual “this organism” once was is the mystery of the show. And to paraphrase Sting, that bed’s too big for Carol without Zosia.

And although I wouldn’t mind a “bottle episode” showing what The Others do, I’m not really expecting to see first-hand any Others POV.

Perhaps the Others have set Carol up by leaving clues behind, giving her a mystery to solve, and allowing her to chase down a nonexistent “cure” because they know it will keep her…happy?

What liquids are; odorless, amber colored, neutral Ph, olive oil consistency, and don’t contain chlorine?