Pluribus (New Vince Gilligan show on AppleTV)

That is why I suspected the shipping container held radio equipment and not an atomic bomb.

But they’ve already said that if Carol asked for an atomic bomb, they’d give it to her after weighing with her the pros and cons. As deranged as that seems.

I took that to mean that they would give her what she asked for, even if it was a weapon or something else destructive.

But how would Carol know what kind of radio equipment to get? And why would that be a big deal, when presumably they can get whatever they determine they need next season? I think you guys are way over thinking it. They foreshadowed a bomb in an earlier episode. She said it was a bomb.

It’s a bomb. This particular plot point is not complicated.

It’s not even remotely overthinking to say it may or may not be a literal atom bomb depending on what the writers decide in the future. VG loves to subvert expectations. It’s intentionally vague.

Yeah, they can wait to get the Radio Shack delivery for when they have actually figured out what they need. The bomb is just so Carol has the option to off herself before being joined.

She doesn’t need a bomb to “off” herself. Indeed, to the extent she is sincere in her representations to care for the fate of humanity and is not just a love scorned, a bomb would be counterproductive because it would take out Manousos as well.

So I am going to stick with (1) probably a real bomb and (2) its function in the story is and will be to remind Carol of how utterly alien Pluribus is.

The Hive agrees

Ah! Inside joke!

I don’t think the writers know what’s in the box at this point. Or at least that’s a strong possibility.

I am quite confident that VG intends there to be a nuke in the box. I think speculation to the contrary is overthinking things.

However, I also think it’s plausible that they kept it inside the box in order to keep their options open. Go back and read interviews with VG about how he regards the machine gun reveal in Breaking Bad as a mistake. He did it as a lark, and then he spent weeks and weeks tearing his hair out, beating his head against the wall, trying to figure out the best way to pay it off. Eventually he did come up with something pretty cool, but he hated the experience.

So I think the safest interpretation at the moment is that VG & Co are saying to each other, Yeah it’s probably a nuke and we’ll proceed with the assumption that a nuke is what we’re paying off, but if we absolutely can’t come up with something we like, it’s a closed box and we can do a different reveal.

I wonder too:

“** Impending Starvation:** Within the show’s storyline, it is established that the majority of humanity (over 7 billion individuals) who have been “joined” into a hive mind will likely starve to death within 10 years due to a severe caloric deficit and food shortages.”

The remaining Hivers will then have a food source, right? Can the smaller group survive in perpetuity that way? Do we know if they can reproduce?

…. yes? Doesn’t that back up what I was saying?

What food source is that?

People

How nourishing do you think people who have starved to death would be? And how long the supply would last?

I have no idea but there should be an equilibrium at some point.

The dead. If those hive nodes starve to death, they won’t be able to provide too many calories to the surviving nodes.

Can the hive harm its own nodes? Can it decide to start winding down at some point, and send otherwise healthy nodes to processing facilities to be converted to powder and saved for the rest? What is the hives opinion on Logan’s Run?

Fun concept, but deeply flawed in execution.

Oh, you meant that hive.