They could shoot through the windows. Why do you keep harping on the door and walls when each room had two BIG windows.
I’m half crippled and I could have walked around the building and seen what was going on THROUGH THE REGULAR GLASS WINDOWS. My eyes aren’t as good as they once were, but scoped long guns make up for that.
I give up. You have your own reality that doesn’t have any connection to real life.
I see you’ve met Magiver.
Up Next: Robot monkeys in miniature tunneling machines dropped in by parachute on miniature electric motorcycles so as to not give away their approach!
What can I say, I usually hang out in the MMP and pet pic threads. I know better now and will not waste my time with willfully blind people anymore.
As a retired government worker who quit smoking a pack of cigarettes a day shortly after retiring, I have to say that I have spent way too long standing around the back of large buildings. If I was looking for the knox box, I’d start at the gas and or electric pipes. They are pretty easy to recognize and are out in the open so emergency responders can find them quickly.
Totally unsecure,
I was using knox box as a generic name. The ones I’m used to seeing are five dial combination locks housed in what looked to be a pretty heavy duty metal box. I never actually messed with one because why would I? but I know that they are very common in Arizona. Texas does things differently.
Lordy, you don’t want me to start posting videos of how easy those are to get into . . . without even “dialing” the combination!
Can you link to a photo that is showing you this? From all I can find, it looks like the windows have horizontal bars, so you couldn’t get through them by just breaking the glass.
I’m absolutely certain that those ‘’‘bars’‘’ are just extruded aluminum.
and you think the shooter was standing in front of the window? Was he wearing a large bullseye in your scenario?
Just a complete WAG but it would probably be the guy pointing this at the children,
If only there was a way for you to research stuff before you post your rambling thoughts.
This quiet electric motorcycle is helping Ukrainian snipers fight back against the Russians
Mamuka Mamulashvili, commander of the Georgian Legion, a unit in the Ukrainian Army formed of mostly ethnically Georgian soldiers, told The War Zone that he requested the electric motorbikes for his sniper teams.
Mamulashvili explained that his teams required the electric bikes to quietly insert into a target area, engage the enemy from a distance, and then quickly exfiltrate before the Russians answer with artillery strikes on the location.
while I’m sure you would stand in front of a window I would expect the shooter would avoid being a target himself.
Yes, while not perfect, dead children can be used like sandbags and piled into a makeshift defensive fighting position.
so can live children which would make him less of a target. I suspect he used them as shields.
Moderating:
If y’all want to snipe at each other, you know which way the pit is.
The police were able to breach the room starting right from when they got there. Most simply, they could have used either the keys they were carrying or the keys in the emergency-response box. And yes, I’m assuming that they had their own keys, because among the first police to arrive were the school district’s police, and absolutely everything school district police do would require them to have their own keys. If they don’t have keys, then they’re pure parasites, siphoning money from the taxpayers to do literally nothing at all (and while I’ll admit that that’s a possibility, it’s not exactly one that exonerates them).
If, for some reason, they were so incompetent that they didn’t have keys, or if for some reason their keys didn’t work, then they could have forcibly opened the door. No matter how reinforced the door was (and I’ve seen plenty of flimsy doors in schools, especially underfunded schools), all it takes is one hole anywhere (say, through the glass window in the door), and they can reach in and open it from the inside (and every classroom door must be openable from the inside, for fire safety reasons).
And if, against all odds, the door was solid steel with no window, then they could have breached the exterior windows, which we know exist. Even if those bars are something so solid that they can’t get through them, they could reach through them to shoot any point within the room.
Call all of the wrecker services in town. They know everybody by first name, and get a wrecker on site. Like this one from Gilberts in Uvalde:
Back that mother into the outside wall and take out the whole section.
Ulvalde fire department:
This one could have made a dent
More criticism from somebody pretty highly placed in the field:
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Obviously, there is still a great deal that we don’t know, or know with certainty, but this is (at least) two fairly highly placed ‘industry’ folks who – we can presume – would struggle to give the benefit of the doubt to those who were on the scene.
And, apparently, can’t.
19 good ole boys in big hats were inside the school giving it a real hard think.