Believe it or not, we have an excellent bagel factory here. Nothing like a fresh poppy seed bagel with the topping of choice.
Here in the Bay Area we don’t have either - or not good ones. I’ve found one bagel place marginally acceptable - they are mostly rolls with a hole. (The bagel shops have mostly been taken over by people who wouldn’t know a good bagel if one bit them … ) There are better bagels in North Carolina than here. There is little as good as getting a hot bagel and a Sunday New York Times on Saturday night.
We’ve got a few Krispy Kremes, and a few not very good mom and pop shops, but no Dunkin Dougnuts. And all the Mom and Pop shops close early, so you can’t get fresh late night doughnuts.
And I won’t even mention the impossibility of getting a decent hot pastrami sandwhich around here…
Can’t I have bagels and donuts??
I love bagel sandwiches… with a donut for dessert.
fresh warm sour dough bagel, not toasted loaded with plain cream cheese… YUM!
Or (this is going to sound gross but it’s great) a fresh warm berry berry bagel, not toasted with plain cream cheese and crisp bacon. YUM, YUM, YUM.
I’ll take those over a donut any day.
Of course, we don’t have a Krispy Kreme here. I’ve never even seen one.
Since I’ve been on Atkins, they’re both out. But I’d rather have a **real **bagel, like the ones my grandpa used to make - with a nice slice of lox and a “shmear.”
And by the way, Krispy Kremes are not doughnuts. I don’t know what they are but they’re definitely not doughnuts. I mean, for god’s sake, they’re made in a mold!!!
Best doughnuts: the ones made with sour cream at Corbo’s in Little Italy, in Cleveland.
Doughnuts aren’t a meal, you freaks! I always wondered how so many people could have doughnuts for breakfast - they’re like a treat or a desert, it’d be like eating cake for dinner.
Sign me up for bagels. Say what you will about fruit bagels, you freak, but blueberry bagels with cheesecake flavored cream cheese are great.
Philadelphia cream cheese seems to have dropped that, though :(. They have a line of flavored cream cheeses and cheesecake was just great, but they dropped it for some reason. They kept “garden flavor” but got rid of cheesecake. Oh the humanity.
Where’s it at? I haven’t gone off on a strange food quest in a while… are they open late? I try to avoid the world in the morning…
Wrong. No justification needed, you’re just wrong. As wrong as if you said “The Moon is made out of Play-Doh”
Unless, by “doughnut,” you mean “crappy, substandard imitation.” In which case, Krispy Kremes’s aren’t doughnuts, and everything else is.
There is nothing on this earth better than a Krispy Kreme hot original glazed doughnut. If I could realistically survive eating nothing else, I’d do it. It doesn’t help my healthy heating habits that I live just over a mile from a KK store.
But I love bagels, too. I’m a big fan of both, really. I don’t even think the OP has any merit. I mean, I’ll very enthusiastically eat a donut, a bagel, or both. I feel more satisfied, yet more guilty when I have donuts, though.
Mind says bagels.
Heart says donuts.
The battle begins.
bagels
doughnuts are too sweet n sticky.
Apples. Oranges.
I can’t compare them.
They each have different purposes - donuts are a small, inexpensive, convenient package of fat and sugar, for those times when you need such a thing. They’re small enough that if you can’t decide between the banana creme-filled one and the chocolate sprinkles, you can eat two and not regret it. Huzzah!
Bagels, inexpensive and convenient packages of carbohydrates and salt, are a conveyor of sandwich fillings, cream cheese, butter, etc, as well as poppy seeds, sesame seeds, bits of onion/garlic etc, and a pleasantly salty chew. A small meal, rather than a dessert. I’m always in the mood for a bagel, when sometimes donuts are just too much to think about.
Very different animals. I’ll keep them both, thank you.
lola, you don’t actually believe that there are no bagels in Toronto, do you? Lies, lies, I say ! Yes, I acknowledge that Montreal bagels are spectacular (I had a roommate drive up during the ice storm to get some), and also that Montreal is probably superior in ever other way (I’d love to move there but suspect I’ll need to brush up my French and teach it to my husband; the music scene is certainly better) but here we’ve got Gryfes, for starters, and a big Jewish neighbourhood with wood ovens a-plenty. Come and see, with an open mind …
Bagels. I vastly prefer them. And I’d kill for a real one right about now. With plain cream cheese. Plain bagel, too, but a real, hard-crusted bagel, not the soft things they sell in the cafeteria…
Thank God I don’t have to make this choice, because it’s not possible. Choosing between a warm, chewy, crusty bagel with cream cheese and a sticky, yummy, gooey Krispy Kreme is my idea of hell.
I could never, EVER do Atkins. Ever.
That’s like asking my preference between oxygen and water.
Seriously, it is hard to get good bagels around here. All the supermarkets bake their own but they are inferior. Dunkin Donuts sells some barely acceptable ones.
Of course I don’t believe that, silly.
It’s from a song called “I don’t want to go to Toronto” by superior Montreal comedy troupe The Vestibules.
As for your Jewish neighbourhoods and such, I will see your wood ovens with the Mom and Pop pizzeria right across the street from me who make fabulous 2-for-1 pizzas in a wood oven, and raise you one Dad’s Bagels, down my street, which is open 24 hours, and not only serves real boiled bagels from a huge wood oven, but also happens to be the best place for takeaway Indian food in this end of the city (you can even buy korma sauce there with or without lamb in it) - :drooooooooool:
In conclusion, Montreal - good. Donuts - meh.
Bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, bagels, CREAM CHEESE CREAM CHEESE
– er, sorry bout that. I don’t know what came over me.
Bagels over doughnuts any time any where. I’ll even take fake bagel-shaped bread over a doughnut (but only if I can’t find the real thing).
Donuts, without question. I’d rather have toast or an English muffin over 90% of the bagels I’ve had, too.
SCHMEER! SCHMEE-EE-EER!
Uh, yeah. 
Bagels for me, too. Donuts are just too sweet, usually. The sweetest pastry-type product I can generally tolerate is a poppyseed muffin. Maple bars and the like make me shudder.
Doghnuts= sickly sweet, fatty, greasy mess. They are good every once in a while, but by that I mean twice or three times a year, tops.
Bagels= delicious! Especially Einstein Bro’s pumpkin bagel with salmon cream cheese… Mmmmm… Or Panera’s asiago cheese bagels with tons of plain cream cheese…