How many job interviews are conducted while people are out running errands during their free time? The ones I’ve been on have been in the interviewer’s office, not in the middle of the produce aisle or at the gas pump.
Who exactly am I supposed to be trying to impress while I’m filling my tank?
Agreed. She does look neat and clean, and quite presentable. And though we can’t see it, I doubt that her pants are jammed into her crack, or that her ass says “Juicy” across it.
Hmmm . . .
So apparently if you see someone dressed according to your definition of “slob,” that means that they are, were, and ever shall be a slob, yea verily until the end of time. You can’t imagine that they’re just sloppily dressed today, because it’s their day off, or everything else is in the wash, or because they honestly can’t afford anything nicer?
Is anyone else reminded of the two saleswomen on Rodeo Drive in Pretty Woman?
All it says about him/her to me is that they don’t place a lot of value on clothes and that’s not a bad thing.
Doubtful I’ll have any lasting impression of them at all… Unless they do something to leave a lasting impression on me and it probably won’t be about their clothes.
No, I mean to say that if a person doesn’t care much about their appearance, then they don’t care much about what other people think of them. And since I’m other people, I’m not inclined to give them any consideration they didn’t give me.
I want my family, neighbors, and friends to think I’m a nice person. That I’m smart and sane. So I try to smile and be friendly and do nice things for them. I also shower and try not to look crazy.
But I stopped dressing for other people when I graduated from high school. My own tastes guide what I wear. No one else’s.
Sweatpants in public? Sure. I’ve worn worse. The other day I went to the grocery store dressed in clothes caked in dried clay (I’m taking pottery lessons). I’m sure people looked at me and thought I was a freak. And so the fuck what. Chances are 1) I will never see them again, 2) I was dressed a million times better than they were, even with the clay, and 3) their opinions don’t put food on my table or keep me in good health.
Some people look better in sweatpants than they do in jeans. If you have a fat ass and substantial girth, you can’t go wrong with sweatpants but you CAN go wrong in jeans. If we must be fashionistic, I think we should judge people on a case-by-case basis rather than coming up with absolute rules.
What I mean is that if they’re not willing to put in the effort to not look like slobs, then I’m not willing to put in the effort to look for excuses for their slobbishness.
Why do people think that I owe them more effort (in giving them the benefit of the doubt) than they owe me (by, say… putting on some actual pants)?
I wear sweatpants in public. Of course, I am generally leaving the gym, on my way home. Or, I’m on the way to the gym in the midst of running my errands.
So, unless I am to-ing or fro-ing from the gym, nope.
I can only speak for myself, but it isn’t about caring what you think of me or what you think of anyone else, I’m curious more than anything since else. FTR, I’m not really a sweats type person. I’m short and they usually come with cuffs so I know they wouldn’t fit me anyway, so this isn’t something I take personally.
Having said that, sweats do have pantlegs and a waistband and they cover all the same things that “actual pants” cover. They’re usually thicker than other pants so it isn’t as if they are thin like PJ pants are. The style is rather casual, but not that so much more than jeans are.
In your quote above you allude to the idea that you are owed something that requires people to wear what you deem to be actual pants. What do you consider this to be that they owe you?
I don’t think that they “owe” me anything. I just think that they look lazy and ridiculous, and I also don’t think that I “owe” it to them to consider all of the Very Good Reasons they left the house looking lazy and ridiculous.
I’m not disagreeing with you regarding judgments made. People are kidding themselves if they think people (including themselves) aren’t judging them often. Maybe judging isn’t the right word, appraising. We appraise people constantly and don’t even realize it.
Anyone who has taken any of those online tests where you find out your “preferences” by looking at two pictures and selecting the one you like best knows that anything our eyes roam over causes us to make a decision regarding it.
The way someone dresses, if they smoke, if they are attractive, if they are overweight, if they are reading a comic book, if they are well coiffed, etc. All of these things cause a positive or negative reaction in our brains, often without us really thinking about it so I get what you’re saying.
I was just quoting you before when you said you don’t OWE them too delve deeper into their reasons (and you don’t) any more than they OWE you (to put on actual pants). That’s where I got the word owe, from your post.
Exactly. All I’m saying (and apparently saying badly, I freely admit that I occasionally have problems with “no really, what’s to not get about this?”) is that people absolutely do form opinons based on appearance, and that you ignore that at your peril.