Thank you, but I have choosen to abstain from replying rather than beg for absolution.
At least I wasn’t the only one that didn’t understand it. I just noticed it and was trying to figure out what got me to click on it in the first place. I must’ve just been curious.
I gotta explain this to you as well? The OP was likening encouragement of vaccine uptake with animal training. You’re welcome.
Vaccine passports are a bone of contention over here. (UK) There has been overwhelming acceptance of the vaccine across most of the population ut some resistance from younger people and the black community.
Ministers insist Covid status certificates will never be required for essential services such as supermarkets, public transport or GP surgeries but could be useful for managing the risks at music festivals, sporting matches and nightclubs.
The Government has announced pilots to test the use of Covid certificates for mass gatherings from sporting events to nightclubs.
the opposition says:
~the use of coronavirus certificates domestically raises “difficult ethical questions” and the plans have been criticised by some.
~ it would be “discriminatory” to require someone to produce a vaccination certificate as a condition of entry to shops, such as Next or H&M.
Senior Tory Mark Harper, chairman of the lockdown-sceptic Covid Recovery Group, warned that Covid status certification “will lead to a two-tier Britain”.
Dr Mike Ryan, executive director of the World Health Organisation’s health emergencies programme, said vaccine passports for travel could affect fairness across the globe.
We are booked on a cruise in July and are warned that we will not be allowed to board if we are not vaccinated. They don’t say what proof they require though.
“It’s not enough to want a cracker. You have to earn it.” H. Simpson
I would like the OP to confirm this. I thought the OP was using the cracker as an analogy for an incentive to do something, like a carrot vs. a stick (another analogy).
Where does it say this? I’m aware of the issue that it is considered uncharted waters from a legal standpoint, but if it’s now definitive, I’d like to see the evidence.
The leadership team at my office is currently debating whether to require vaccinations by end of summer when we plan on returning to partial weeks in the office. We’re using this as guidance to ensure that we aren’t overstepping.
I did some research and, in fact, parrots do enjoy a cracker if offered one. Salt isn’t good for them, though, so they should be unsalted.
In any case, where I grew up at least, the phrase originated from the idea that you reward animals for performing correctly. So, if you are trying to teach a parrot to emulate speech, you give him a cracker every time he is successful. As related to this post, the “cracker” is the entertainment pass. Every time someone gets successfully vaccinated, that person is rewarded with an entertainment pass. This encourages others to seek out that reward, also. “Polly want a Vax Pass?” Then “perform” correctly.
Just remembered. The slogan they are floating is, “Join the fun!” Otherwise, apparently, you will be rightfully left out if you don’t.
Thanks much for that enlightening explanation. So despite the massive evidence that the vaccine is safe and effective and despite that “certain statutory criteria have been met,” people can’t be compelled to vaccinate until all the bureaucratic i’s have been dotted? That seems like a huge loophole that plays right into the hands of anti-vaxxers and that’ll potentially keep us in masks and away from each other for years to come. 
Heh, I’ve worked with parrots. Rewarding with a cracker isn’t a thing. Using tape loops or digital loop players is more how it is done. 
It sounds that way, but I don’t know a whole lot about it.
One thing that I’m seeing is that it appears that for a medicine to be covered under the EUA, it has to be for combating a current public health emergency. Once covid is no longer considered a public heath emergency, I assume that it’s EUA status would be removed and they’d have to get it approved the normal way. And not being able to require it, WRT it’s EUA status, would be moot.
Perhaps that has become a commonly understood meaning of the phrase, but that’s not what it means to me. I’ve always thought of the phrase “Polly wants a cracker” as something that, for reasons lost in the mists of time, people often teach parrots to say, just because it’s kind of tradition. No actual crackers need to be harmed at any point in the process. It’s kind of like how people teach their dogs to “shake,” even though it’s just a common routine and never involves actual guests who shake hands/paws in an introductory ritual with the trained dog.
With that as my understanding, the original thread title seemed odd. I could make it work by asking myself, “Are crackers actually given to parrots as a reward during training?” and assuming it was something I didn’t know about birds. But although I’ve had several friends with parrots, I’ve never seen one actually being fed a cracker.
The reason I’d deliberately avoid giving our African Grey a cracker was just proven a minute ago here (I’m at work). I found a saltine cracker someone got with take-out soup and offered it to Rocco. He immediately dunked it in his water, making a mess. No more crackers!!!
The military currently doesn’t feel it can order Marines to take the vaccine. Unless you work in a very health sensitive environment, good luck with having your employees enjoying less medical freedom than active duty troops.
The military is part of the federal government and follows a completely different set of rules. Do you or do you not have a cite that says a school or private employer can not require vaccinations?
Nope. I looked up a cite the other day that said asking medical questions is generally a no no.
That makes sense. I just looked up how long it’ll take to get full FDA approval, and it turns out to be about 6 months after Pfizer and Moderna submit the application, which they’re expected to do within the next couple of months*. But what constitutes a public health emergency? Given the disturbingly high vaccine hesitancy rate, I’m wondering if we could possibly reach that goal before the current vaccines get full approval.
- That’s for adults. It’ll be much longer before use in children gets full approval.
No cite here, however early in the pandemic I laid off all but one employee. When news of a vaccine came along, I told everyone I wouldn’t be rehiring anyone who wasn’t vaccinated.
I’ll let you know if I get sued.
We’re guessing to an extent, but just from casual conversations, we are only aware of a single person planning on not getting vaccinated in the very near future. We are currently leaning towards requiring the vaccine as a condition of employment just as you have, for the safety of those returning. Our current plan is two days a week in the office, so we’d really like for them to feel comfortable.
That’s part of the discussion, but based on the guidance I linked to earlier, I’m pretty confident that we’d win if it happened (mainly because general counsel thinks so).
Well, I’m 63. If the state/federal government told me I had to rehire someone who wasn’t vaccinated, I’d say fück it and retire.