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One gang member killed and two others wounded.
One less gang member in the area, and two that might think twice about gang activity.
Hopefully, this will act as a deterrent to keep other people from joining a gang.
This is an old one, I believe in 2005, but my wife and I saw it on See No Evil, a true crime show that highlights CCTV footage.
Johnny Williams kidnapped, raped, and murdered a cashier at Wal-Mart and stole her truck. He headed west, attempted to rob a store in an RV park, and the clerk shot and wounded him. Williams was later arrested in the hospital where he sought treatment.
So, DGU with injuries to the perp. And also leading to the arrest and conviction of a murderous criminal.
Regards,
Shodan
Is there any way to find out if the event happened as reenacted for dramatic purposes on this entertainment program?
edited to add: Withdrawn-did not notice the link at the beginning of the post.
Trying to find the “positive” news here. Not clear from the article who was in a gang, or whether all three were. It also says nothing at all about the shooter except to refer once to a “gunman.” Police say the shooting was “gang related” which may be true but is rather thin analysis.
Unfortunately incidents like this tend not to deter gang members, but rather lead to an endless cycle of revenge killings.
Gang members are a renewable resource. There are always more willing to take their place, and there is zero evidence that gang violence is a deterrent, nor that gun control has an effect on gang violence. Making their neighborhoods less shitty so that they have more opportunities besides the drug and sex trades appears to be the main, solvable solution. Unless a civilian has saved lives in legal SD I see no DGU.
Luckily, I read the OP, which stated “people can add their own positive news items relating to firearms”. There doesn’t have to be a civilian DGU story. Just a positive news story. Gang members being killed is positive, isn’t it?
This thread is packed with examples of people using a gun to stop a crime or save lives.
This recent article gives 12 examples with links to the original news article. Most of these examples weren’t lethal encounters.
I would say so, although I understand how many would think that any life lost, no matter whose, is tragic. From experience I believe some crooks will be crooks no matter what, and it is better that they lose their lives than they take the life of someone else.
Gang violence of any kind is never good news. That a gang member was killed during gang violence does not make it any better. I think the spirit of the thread is to show events where guns were used by law-abiding citizens for an outcome that is positive for law-abiding citizens. Examples of criminals killing each other with guns doesn’t make the point.
Somehow I don’t think your statement is really looking for an answer.
Abraham Lincoln in his late teens was a soldier in the East Side Maulers, a violent street gang of the time. It is speculated that he may have slit the throat of Dolly Madison’s (of snack cake fame) niece. Lincoln went on to be elected president and currently graces our five dollar bill.
ETA: and the penny as well. The only man ever to be portrayed on pennies and fives. #themoreyouknow
/history lesson
I agree. With the statement “some crooks will be crooks no matter what”, with the emphasis on “some”.
The problem is, you never know which crooks will be crook no matter what, until you give them realistic better options. It is a waste for someone who was born into a situation where they are highly likely to engage in crime then engages in crime, and is never given a chance to try something else before being killed for doing what they were set up from birth to do.
I don’t think a gun-owner chasing a guy down to shoot him again is positive either. But we were warned not to make those types of judgements.
If I haven’t been whooshed - cite?
Lincoln won a wrestling match with a local leader of a sort of gang, but that is not really the same thing.
Regards,
Shodan
In other news, Alleged burglar shot at by local business owner
DGU with no injuries. Not very wise to keep the mask on after fleeing the scene. Then again, engaging in criminal activity isn’t very wise either.
In other news, Suspected robber shot and killed by victim with concealed carry weapon
DGU with 1 death. Even in a parked car the victim was able to draw and fire avoiding any injuries to himself or his family.
Do you have a penny? Can you ask someone to show you a five? I promise you; same, same.
ETA: From Wikipedia (I know):
If I may inquire without offense, WTF are you talking about?
On preview - never mind. I am afraid if you explain it, I will understand it, and then I would be tempted to make a DGU against the voices in my head, and someone could get hurt.
Regards,
Shodan
Yeah, I thought it was common knowledge that Lincoln was on the penny and the $5 bill. And that he was the 16th President. I can’t understand what the confusion is about.
We are not allowed to discuss why someone would think so.