I’ve never heard pedigree not rhyming with tree.
I’ve heard (and wiki supports it) that the accent is West Country English, the actor hailing from Dorset.
Also, whilst I’m here, Angry, Hungry and Pedigree all rhyme in my accent, and I can’t think of another way to pronounce Pedigree such that it doesn’t
I see what he’s saying.
Say “angry tree” or “hungry tree” out loud and it doesn’t quite rhyme as well as “Pedigree tree.”
Scottish? It’s an English West country accent, which be the regional accent for where oi lives. It’s a running joke on “Talk like a pirate day” that no-one can tell who’s taking part and who’s just local.
Every syllable has a vowel, besides orange and purple, the word month also doesn’t rhyme with anything.
I still don’t get it. I’ve sat whispering these words to myself and they all rhyme in my accent.
Maybe he thinks that “hungry” and “angry” are pronounced with a soft g?
No it doesn’t. The “ngwee” is a minor coin, valued at 1/100 of a Zambian kwacha. Prnounced 'en-gwee". Recognized as an English word in English dictionaries. One ngwee currently worth about 1/10-cent US.
In my use and experience, the final syllable of pedigree takes 2 or 3 times as long to pronounce as the final syllable of angry or hungry. The syllables an and gry are the same spoken length, the syllables hun and gry are the same spoken length, but in pedigree, the ped is roughly the length of an, hun, or gry, the i is shorter, and the gree is around the same length as (and rhymes with) three or tree. So for angry and hungry, it is beat/beat, while for pedigree it is beat/halfbeat/doublebeat. Not a rhyme.
No, what I meant was that it was Disney-Scottish. Kinda like Dick van Dyke spoke Disney-Cockney.
I read it in a book about Disney live-action films, which is in storage now, and I can’t get to it, or I’d go look it up-- albeit, I read it maybe 20 years ago, so if I’m misremembering, it won’t come as a shock, but I’m nonetheless pretty sure that Silver was supposed to have an accent that passed for Scottish.
The following is a perfectly legit sentence:
Buffalo buffalo, Buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
The question isn’t whether they rhyme, but whether they end in gry/gree. It may be that if you are composing a sonnet, rhyming angry with pedigree is out, but that isn’t the question.
My point was that “There are three words that end in ‘gry/gree,’” works only as a spoken riddle, not a written one, because the third word in the spoken riddle can be “pedigree.” Sonnets notwithstanding.
There might be a Limerick about a hungry dog who ate his pedigree, though.
“Curple” is a rare but technically English word, and rhymes with purple.
Lots of English words don’t have a true rhyme. No real word rhymes with wolf, false, or gouge. Those are of course short examples; long words probably don’t have true rhymes more often than they do.
In English, a word that just rhymes using the last syllable is a “masculine rhyme,” like set and net. Words that lack a masculine rhyme are rare. A feminine rhyme is a word that matches the last two syllables, like treasure and measure. In some words they really don’t “sound” like they rhyme uless they achieve a feminine rhyme. Words without a feminine rhyme are common.
Cwm shows up in dictionary.com. And of course in Scrabble.
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I was under the impression that “end with the same sound” was the definition of “rhyme.” And in my neck of the woods, pedigree does not end with a “gry” sound, but a “gree.” Analogies for the angry/pedigree pair in the English I’m familiar with are fry/free, try/tree, buy/bee, my/me, goodby/degree, etc. No rhyme, no same sound.
Nope. Robert Newton, who played the character, was from the West Country himself, and did an exaggerated version of his own local accent, including phrasing.
Has it been a terrific oversight to sanction auto-antonyms?
This recent article about adjective order blew my mind.
I’m sorry, but this is confusing. Are you trying to say that you pronounce the ends of “angry” and “hungry” like they rhyme with “try”?
Still don’t get it. Do you mean to say that hungry is pronounced in a way that the -gry sounds like “eye”, like your examples there?
Or are you supposed to say “pedigree”, you’re supposed to say it "pedigreeeeeeeeee? Again, when I say angry, hungry and pedigree, they all end with the same sound.
Holy crap! :eek: