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should have punished him by saying he can’t eat any of their food during the next (2) meals, since he already had his. I think Lex (tat freak) was right that they now couldn’t trust Clarence, but maybe Clarance has a chance to gain their trust if they keep him around because he’s the biggest/strongest guy in their tribe.

BTW, is Tom such a stupid bigot (I know, oxymoron) that he couldn’t even spell “Clarence” so he just used the initials “C.B”?

Munch - I’m cheating by looking at the CBS Survivor page for some of their names.

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Dang!

It’s too bad I didn’t think about the Survivor Fantasy thing for on here. I am in one with my friends at Yahoo, and I hit big the first night. I put 100 on Diane and got the five points for picking the right team to win immunity.

I always make predictions for who I believe will be the winner after the first week. I pick one from each tribe, in case one tribe gets killed.

Survivor I: I picked Richard and Joel
Survivor II: I picked Keith and Jeff
Survivor III: I pick Lex and Lyndsey(unless she gets injured, which is rumored).

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Didn’t see the show, but looked at the link posted by H8_2_W8 and Jessie looks like a hottie. I vote for her.

Hey, the show is shallow anyway, why can’t I watch it with a shallow eye?

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Yeah, I caught Diane’s smirk. I was thinking, “Does no one there notice it?” She was obviously scheming. I agree that Clarence made some pretty bad strategic mistakes, but the others knew they needed him for the team challenges.

The military guy isn’t winning any friends. He’d trying to use military leadership techniques on a bunch of civilians.

Bubba – I mean Tom – fits the stereotype of a dumb redneck. It will be fun watching him make a fool of himself. Who was the farmer on the last Survivor? He was all “Well, shucks. I’m just a farmboy.” Bubba/Tom is like “Goldernit! Ahm a-madder’n hayel, yuh food-stealin’ varmint!” Real Yosemite Sam type. At least that’s my first impression.

Water. Boran (isn’t that an Irish drum? – Bodhran?) was smart to scoop out the pit. Do you think it would be a good idea to dig it deeper, and then put rocks around it out to about a meter, then build up the rocks to above the water level? I’d think that would keep a lot of the crud out of it and give them cleaner water to boil.

Food strategy. First, I think everyone shoud drink as much as they can; even if they’re not thirsty. They’ll have an advantage if they’re not dehydrated. (Unless the other side also hydrates well.) Would it be better to eat a little more at the beginning to get an “edge” in the challenges? They might win some chickens, which would make up for the greater earlier intake. Or should they ration the food as the teams have in all of the other shows? What do you think there is that they can legally hunt?

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Jessie didn’t look all that hot in the show (except when they showed her in uniform). She had terribly chapped lips. That may have been a factor.

I thought there was one girl that was really pretty, and by looking at the website, it MAY have been Kelly.

Lex is an early favorite. Not to win (he looked AWFUL in the challenge), but to make funny comments.

My cast analysis:
Richie Sambora Tribe

Brandon: Turning the flame WAY up. I’ll bet he’ll be great for Jeff like commentary. Grade: B+

Carl: He was the guy gathering water. A few to many hick sayings. He was funny, but he was clearly pandering. Grade: C-

Frank: A bit of a Mike. I thought Mike had was doomed early, but if he is useful, he will stick. If not he is doomed. Notice he didn’t join in the group hug after they made fire. Sure, he WAS nuturing the fire at the time, but you FREAKING get in the group hug! Grade: B

Kim P.- Why did they allow 2 Kims? One is in the other tribe. Not much from this one. Another Amber or just not enough time to judge? Grade: Inc.

Linda- Clearly this woman works for Harvard. She had East Coast intellectual written all over her. Wisely, she left her history of human civ lecture for the home audience. I think I will enjoy this if she smuggly pans the tribe in private, but acts maternal when not alone. Grade: B+

Lindsey- I can’t honestly remember one thing about her. She may have been the one helping Silas get the fire going. That may have been Kim P. I don’t know. **Grade: Inc. **

Silas- “I have made fire!” Allowed for a great Mike moment. I swear I heard someone in the background snicker LOUDLY when Kim P./Lindsey said “Don’t inhale the smoke”. Silas is my early favorite to take the Colby role. I think he will go far. In fact, I’ll call Silas to win. You build the fire, you get the grade. Grade: B+

Teresa- I don’t remember much about her.Grade: Inc.

The Atomic Weight 10.811 Tribe

Clarence- A flop. Dead man walking. If he didn’t bolt up that mountain like Hermes, he would have had his head on the chopping block. I subscribe to the NEfarious Diane theory espoused above, but he still deserves the abuse (not THAT much, but abuse nonetheless). Grade: F

Diane- Such a Debb on the trek to camp. Also made the Maddog mistake of falling during a challenge. Really, she was also involved in a Kel type food controversy. Isn’t that the first three players ousted last year? Hey. At least you KNOW Bryant Gumbel will ask you a question on the Reunion Show. A total failure. Though I upgrade one bump for attempting to take out Clarence. Well played. Not enough. Grade: D-

Ethan- A leader? He seemed to fan both the Cherries and Beans controversy, then pulled back to let Tom take the political flack of being too vicious. A Jeff type move? If this team dominates merger, Ethan is my favorite. Grade: A-

Jessie: Not a lot of personality thus far. Had a few inane lines. She was sold as the hottie. I don’t expect much out of her based on her “narrative” type “lines.”
Grade: C

Kelly: I think she’s the cute one, but I know nothing about her. Grade: Inc.

Kim J.: Kim J., Kim P. What is the? The Spice Girls? Call her by her freakin’ middle name. I hope one of the pair gets voted off soon, so I never have to learn the difference. Grade: Inc

Lex: I like the guy. He had a rough go on the challenge, but he reminds me of Billy Idol, which is always promising. I don’t think he can win, but I think he’ll be fun while it lasts. Not strong enough to inherit the “Nick” role. He better to more for the tribe, or improve on his challenges. Deduction for challenge weakness.Grade: B-

Tom: Doesn’t care for the Jive? Too much. Thinks he is solidifying his place by leading the bandwagon, but it is always a bad sign when you are the only person not voting in the alliance. Plus, no matter if you agree with someone, you still don’t like the crazy extremist. Example: I am a republican, but Pat Buchanan annoys me, too.When the group needs someone to sacrifice, they will have any easier time tying old tiger to the three and bashing him with a stick. Poor play, but gets a bump for being the entertaining moment of the show. Grade: B

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I missed fifteen minutes of the show thanks to a VCR/press conference mishap, so I didn’t see the “two cherries” scene or Samburu’s fire-making.

But I agree Silas has the makings of the new Colby, based on his bio at the website.

Christ on a cracker, I hope Linda and Tom survive long enough to meet each other in the same tribe! If they ever touch, they’ll annihilate each other and leave behind a crater.

Munch, I joined your Survivor Dopes group, but I confess I don’t understand how to use it.

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MAN! There were so many mistakes in my post. HOW DARE THAT GUY COME IN MY OFFICE AND TALK ABOUT WORK WHILE I WAS TYPING MY SURVIVOR 3 CHARACTER ANALYSIS FOR SDMB! Some people have to get their priorities straight.

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Fiver, it does take a bit of concentration! Here’s a run-down, let me know if I’m not very clear (happens all the time):

Each week you get 100 points to “bet” on who is going to be voted off. You can disperse the points as thin or as thick as you want, and you get that many points if you guess correctly. For instance, if this week you put 34 points on Diane, and 33 on each of the Kims, you would get 34 points. If you put all 100 points on Clarence, you’d get the big goose egg. There is also a 5 point bonus in guessing which tribe will win immunity, and after the merger, you get a 5 point bonus for guessing which survivor is going to win the immunity.

I can’t remember who won last season, but they crushed everyone else. It wasn’t me, that’s for sure - I get influenced too much by the rumors.

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Wait, wait…I swear I watched the whole thing…but what is this “two cherries incident” I keep hearing about? Someone please recap for those of us who missed that part.

Otherwise, I too, called that Diane would be first to go–before the show ever even aired. I looked at the profiles on the official website, saw her and thought she would either A) be so annoying they couldn’t stand her for another second, or 2) fall down and mess up the challenge.

Funny, I was right on both counts!

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They opened a can of cherries to eat, since they stupidly dumped their water on the trek to the camp.
Clarence took two; and didn’t even try to hide it, he just double-dipped and had seconds.

I also was pretty sure I saw Diane smirking when they were talking about the can of beans. I think she was definitely setting up Clarence to take a fall. She was bragging about being a mail carrier and could do the physical stuff. Yeah, right!

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Oh, Clarence…what a maroon. I definitely saw Diane smirking–when she was laying there with her head in someone’s lap.

I am not a big fan of Goat Farmer Guy. He was funny when they were digging in the waterhole, but otherwise…just too overbearing.

I forgot to say earlier that during the challenge, two times I SWEAR I saw a person in full on camoflauge (you know, with the actual weeds and various other bits of nature attached to the hat?). I saw him start to stand up from a crouch and so a big chunk o’ weeds or grass or whatever raised up and then I could see regular camo colored clothes. I’m thinking it was a camera guy. Did anybody else see this?

And, thanks Kinsey, for the recap!

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It was a pretty enjoyable premiere. I wasn’t as excited as I usually am (I ADORE Survivor) but as it progressed, I got more and more psyched. One thing I did notice is that there’s definitely not as much eye candy as last year. Between Colby, Kel, and Nick, and Jerri (yes, I thought she was cute), Amber, and my girlfriend Elisabeth, last year was a damn good looking group of Survivors. To me, they all seemed kind of “ehhh” compared to last year. And there were some boring sounding jobs in there too (except for the Goat Farmer.)

Speaking of the Goat Farmer, did anyone else here the really scary random comment he made in his tirade about wanting to shoot Clarence or something? Maybe I’m making this up…it seemed pretty unbelievable. Did anyone tape it? He’ll probably be gone before Clarence is–his attempt to pull a Jerri/Kel beefjerky smackdown was shamefully defused by the fact that Boran doesn’t seem like the followers that Okagor was (but hey, give them a chance; it was only the first day).

All in all, a good first episode. No one looks especially dominant yet, although I was impressed by how Samburu managed to pull out a last minute victory (Ethan just could NOT seem to stay on his feet). A taste of things to come?

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Looking at the posts above, there seems to be some mistaken identity (possibly by me). Help me out.
The guy digging in the water hole: Was that Carl or Tom? I thought that was Carl. I remember thinking that there was a hick old man on BOTH teams.

The guy that kept collapsing while pulling the cart (front right handle): was that Ethan or Lex? I thought it was Lex.

I want to get a good handle on the characters. It is always tough the first week. I need to print out that link above to keep with me next Thursday.

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And my boot predictions for next week is Kim. ( no matter which tribe gets the immunity).

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The Wrong Girl wrote:

“If I had a gun I’d shoot you!” is a pretty common Southernism, not meant to be taken literally. That comment didn’t bother me as much as the sarcastic “jive handshake” comment, which revealed Goat Man Tom as a racist in my book.

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And I always wonder about the rules of the challenges. I didn’t hear Jeff tell the teams that they had to stay all together, just that they had to cross the finish line together. Since they had two torches there, I personally would have told the guy that climbed the mountain, to keep going, and light the other fire, and then come back to meet the rest of the group, while they all kept pushing the damn cart…why sit there for 5 mintues at the bottom of the hill?..Move your ass and get a lead.

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Sunshine–yup…your probably saw one of the sound guys (they’re all decked out in weird weeds) I saw them on E! this morning.

So I’m thinking that there will be no bathing of any kind this season…ew.

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This was definitely Ethan. I’m focused on him because I drew him in our office pool. He fell down a lot. He’s a pro soccer player, so maybe he was trying to draw a red card.

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I thought the exact same thing.
But I think we (the viewers) maybe don’t hear all the rules and explanations. In Survivor 2, there were a couple challenges that seemed to be more involved than what they explained, so I assume they go into more detail for them.
Remember the one when they had to scoop water out of the stream with a can, pour it into a bigger can (with a hole in it) to make a counter-weight? A few people here commented that they would have scooped up sand and rocks while getting the water to try and plug the hole, but since no one did it, I figured Jeff had said that was against the rules.
Plus, it’s a “team” thing, so they would have to stay together.

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Might be one of the sharp shooters…