I’m just getting this thread nice and ready for the Survivor spoilers that I’m in anticipation of… Australia won’t get the show for at least a week or two, and I’m dying to know what everyone thinks of the new Survivors, the first show, and the first booting!
Please, post your spoilers here!!
Diane was such a Debb. If it hadn’t been for ol’ Clarence Two Cherries, it would have been a no brainer. She also pulled a mad dog by collapsing.
I know Clarence did wrong, but I think they poured it on a little more than necessary. Old Goat farmer guy even danced a little close to racism with his “jive” comment. I don’t like him.
No changes in the show yet, but rumors had the rule changes come after the merger. Africa is beautiful! I am going to love the setting. Though I find it difficult to buy the whole “danger” talk. I read that there were sharpshooters all over in case the animals got too close.
Loved the “Mike” moment.
Loved the Visa commercial where the guy is ousted for hogging the melons. Oddly timed, eh?
I like Ethan (or Ian?). The Soccer player. I also like the British looking guy (he isn’t but he looks like a punk rocker).
Tough to judge the players so far (especially in the winning tribe), but it will come. A promising first episode.
Well I’ll go first (but I’m sure someone will simul-post).
I had Diane going out tonite in our little pool, and after the immunity challenge was sure I was set.
But I didn’t know C-L-A-R-E-N-C-E was an anagram for D-U-M-B M-O-V-E either. I mean, how incredibly stupid do you have to be to pull that move day 2? He is a goner - he’s only around to win a couple immunity challenges, then SEE YA. Who would ally w/ him now anyway? They’d just be setting themselves up to be a target.
Interesting that the older guy on Boran (Tom) was only one to vote against Clarence (other than Diane). Does that tell us anything about future alliances? Is his holier-than-thou attitude wearing thin?
Based on only one episode, Samburu does look much stronger.
Samburu and Boran? Why, oh why do they make the tribe names so easy to make fun of? Such as: Sambuca and Boring (or Moron, if you prefer). I am one of the least creative people when it comes to this stuff, and even I could think of those. Please.
Anyway…
I totally knew that Diane was toast. She immediately struck me as the Sue Hawk of the tribe (but not in a good way, because I actually liked Sue). I kinda like the goat farmer. He’s a little rough around the edges, but he seems okay. Clarence should have known better than to open that can of food. He’s going to have to pull off something amazing so avoid getting kicked off.
Why is it that the team that manages to make fire on the first night always wins the matches at the first competition?
I hope in the S4, the tribes walk up to a big fire at the campsite. I am getting tired of the fire making episode 1.
Maybe for S4 the tribes should be given one big canister of oxygen, and another of hydrogen, and be told to make water.
watsonwil:
What’s this about rule changes? I’ve heard nothing of this. What rule will be changed?
I don’t like Tom the farmer either. He’s too belligerant and confrontational; I bet he gets the boot early.
I’ve noticed that a lot of times when they focus in on someone(Clarence in tonights episode), its a bluff. The way they painted things in the second half of the show, I couldn’t imagine them voting for anyone OTHER than Clarence. But then again, I remembered they love to use misdirection to go for the surprise ending. So Diane biting it didn’t surprise me. I like the fact that they kept Clarence, its such a cut throat thing to do. Keep him around for physical challenges. Don’t count him forming alliances out though. He might be so far down the ladder that they forget about him, letting him slip in until its too late to kick him out.
Anyone else think Diane was lying about not asking Clarence to open the can of food? Someone said they showed a clip of her smirking as they were ganging up on him about it, but I didn’t notice it so I don’t know if that happened…but she didn’t actually mention she didn’t ask him to open the can until after they were already ganging up on him and he had said she asked him a few times. Maybe she was laying there worrying about being voted out for being the weak one, and suddenly saw an opportunity to throw the crosshairs on Clarence instead.
He just sounded way too pissed off at the end with his comments about her while voting…not like “ah, you caught me, damnit!”, but more like “You almost made me the next Kel!”
I think Tom’s interrupting to share his “wisdom” will get him in trouble fast…it was interesting at first, but…
Is it just me or did Boran tribe throw away most of their water and then weren’t able to get a fire started? Or was it the other tribe that threw away the water? At first, I wasn’t quite clear as to who was who (still not sure) but when I saw them throw away the water, I was laughing out loud! 
Just such an amazingly dumb thing to do.
Tsugumo:
Absolutely. She saw the way the conversation was going. The others were painting her and Clarence with the same brush and she made a desperate ploy to distinguish herself from him. It was obvious and craven, and I’m glad she got the boot anyway.
Boran Tribe looks to be a bunch of idiots. Unlike Samburu, they never caught the clue that they could just drag their litters like a travois, and their whole argument around the tree sounded to me less like “this discussion is necessary for the harmonious functioning of our tribe” and more like “hey, we’re on Survivor! We should be arguing and making accusations!”
And I’m also getting a slight, but troubling, racist vibe off Tom the goat farmer.
It just occurred to me that this edition of Survivor has the potential to be the most interesting, since they’ve been cast back to the very place and conditions in which humans evolved in the first place. But so far I’m not impressed. Not even by Jessie.
I have no idea. It was just an “article” I read on a TV “news” site. It was probably speculation or misdirection. One of the possibilities they floated was breaking the post merger group into three groups that alter the chances of hard line alliances.
Not only do I think she was lying, I also think she set him up. During the immunity challenge, she was obviously the physically weakest team member. After having collapsed, been dragged back to camp, and needing someone to watch after her while the others worked, I think that she knew that the vote that night would remove her. She may’ve recognized in Clarence a weakness for food (from the two-cherries incident earlier, or maybe just because he’s a big guy) and exploited that to provide a smoke screen for her. So, she weakly asked for food, Clarence provided it, and then–according to plan–he couldn’t resist some himself. When the others came back, he was busted and Diane denied everything. I saw the smirk; she was convinced she’d taken the heat off of herself.
Anyway, that’s my hypothesis. Unless they show any footage from camp of the incident, however, we’ll never know!
No one has yet mentioned that military nut from the Sambuca tribe. What is his name? Frank? Look up frag in the dictionary, and there’s his picture.
“I had 9 months of comfort in my mother’s womb.” Man that cracked me up. I even used it this morning to my wife. (For context, see my “top o’ the morning” Pit thread.)
He’s gonna be a treat to watch.
Hey ladies (and other fans o’ men)! How’s the eye candy on your side of the aisle? No Elizabeths in this group.
OH
MY
GOD!
I missed the first show?!?!?! :eek:
There’s a Diane? She better be DAMN cool!
Diane:
Sorry, sweetie. Unlike you, she isn’t the least bit cool.
And she’s already gone.
both make it to the merger. That should be fun since they seem to be at opposite ends of the continuum.
I also noticed that Kelly (blonde cheerleader) didn’t seem to be pushing the cart during the race, just holding on, but she did scream at the people up front each time they crashed. Her profile says she’s smart, but I bet she’s too much of a princess to carry her weight and she’ll get the boot.
When they were trying to get a fire started, I told my wife that MY personal possession would be a magnifying glass (or round reading glasses) if they allowed it, then BAM! one of them finds the telescope and it takes 3 of them to figure out what they have there. D’Oh!
H8 2 W8, good call. Are you remembering these names off the top of your head, or do have to look them up like me? That’s the one thing I hate about the beginning of the Survivor episodes - I don’t know who anybody is!
Well, I just set up a Yahoo pick 'em for us. It’s Survivor Dopes. The group number is 7730, and the password is cecil. It’s open to everyone, of course. I wish one of us would have remembered to do it sooner, but it’s no big deal. Now we have some information to base our guesses on - I remember last year someone got lucky and scored a bit hit the first night, and won.
I think this series is looking to be very interesting, but I think that that losing tribe is full of a bunch of idiots. They may be all geared up to play the game, but they’re going to do so while starving to death. Hey, you’re all dehydrated. You have to boil the water before you can drink it (since you poured out 1/3 of your water earlier). You don’t have fire. Why don’t you TRY to make some fire?
The winning tribe is obviously filled with a few more smarter people. Just by taking an inventory of what they have pulls them heads and shoulders above the others.
Dinsdale, you’re completely right about that military guy! He’s hilarious, but he’s going to get the boot. You think that after watching B.B. and Kel, you’d get a clue how to act. Sure, Rudy was a military man, but he had the “Crotchety Old Man” thing on his side.
“Frank, what service were you in?”
“I was in the American service. It was called Freedom.”
Wha?
Most of them are too skinny already. Yikes.
Where is the bathroom?
How are they going to wash their clothes?
Also, can’t we have a topic here of SURVIVOR III so as not to be confused with I & II ?
fiver wrote:
Slight? Hell, you can see the racist vibes rising off of him like heat radiation. That kind of guy gives us Southern rednecks a bad name. I was prepared to like him until he started that racist crap.
I also thought Diane was lying, and that it was pretty obvious. I was happy to see her go.
Clarence did so many things wrong I lost count. The cherries! The beans! Hiding the empty can! But most importantly, he shouldn’t have let the rest of the group go off without him to the water hole. That was a bonding opportunity, and you never want to miss a bonding opportunity in the first few days. It was also an opportunity for the rest of the group to badmouth him behind his back.
Pretty much anyone who might have made the decision to stay with Diane would have been screwed. Clarence just happened to be the one clueless enough to do it.