Pro-lifers: What would you do if you were in charge?

Blalron,

Yeah, you are right, I realized that after I posted, that is why I changed it to say 1 million per year instead of 30 million total after a period of 30 years. The 30 million figure just gives a perspective of the impact after a few decades, assuming that the baby murder rate would continue at the same pace, a weak assumtion at that.

I dont mean to say that we can go back and convict those who have already done it.

I also dont mean to say that if we execute baby murderers that the rate of women killing their babies will continue to be a million a year, it might go down(some might be deterred), and obviously, there will be no repeat offendors once they are executed.

RickJay,

You are right that rape should not be an issue - the baby had no choice in it, so why should he be put to death?

Duh, yeah, I know it would be terrible for the woman to carry and have a child by rape, but who said there was anything “good” about being raped?

Rape and rape pregnancy can be handled and reduced by other means, self defense, ccw, etc which is another topic.

  1. I agree that it is horrible, but the woman still retains her “choice”.

  2. I dont think anyone, any normal person, “enjoys” giving the death penalty. I agree, giving the death penalty to murderers is horrible, but it is just.

Much better if people just stop murdering each other - no murder, no death penalty.

Once a law is passed to give the death penalty for murder, it then becomes the choice/decision of the woman and the doctor to be executed or not. The prochoice people still get “some/most” of what they want, since the woman still has the “choice” to abort or not - the only thing that is different is that she will be executed if she chooses to murder. Her decision, not mine.

Susanann, wouldn’t your plan make every woman who miscarries the subject of a homicide investigation?

Where did I ever say that?

But is the taking of all innocent life murder? I’m sure George W. Bush took some innocent lives by ordering the bombing of Baghdad, but that doesn’t make him a murderer, does it? Why not?

Let’s say a woman has herself cut open and gets a 4 month old fetus taken out of her body, and as an indirect result of that the fetus dies since it can’t survive outside the mothers body. The woman hasn’t directly killed the fetus, but she caused its death by choosing not to give it any more physical aid.

Is that any different from having a fetus torn limb from limb, or are they both murder cases in your eyes?

Gandhi once said, “An eye for an eye makes the entire world blind”

Lets try to stay with the main point of this topic - abortion as is commonly being done right now (not miscarraige, not war, etc.)

I only mention miscarriage because I believe that if your laws were implemented that equated the killing of a fetus with murder, miscarriages would potentially become criminal investigations into whether the fetus died a wrongful death.

What of the doctors?
Aren’t they also responsible for murder, then?
Or is it just the “mother”?

CCW? :confused:

As for “rape can be handled, blah blah blah…” you aren’t saying this, but this will only reinforce the notion that if a woman was raped-she wasn’t “really raped” because she didn’t do enough to prevent it.

Back to this issue of miscarriage. Just how far are you willing to go to bring these murders to justice? **Blalron ** is right, you would be required to perform an autopsy on all miscarriages to determine the cause, and a criminal investigation would have to be launched when ever a woman was pregnant, the same way an invesgitation is launched when evera cause of death is unknown. How hard would you work to prevent these abortions?

Considering the war on terrorism, I can just imagine a hotline being set up where you can call in and report a woman you “think might be pregnant,” or you “suspect has missed her period.”

“Hello? Dept of Homeland Security? I’ve been going threw my neighbour’s trash and last month she didn’t use any tampons, but this month she is. I think she had an abortion!”

I hope the perfered form of execution is buring at the stake.

Damn it, BURNING not buring, although that might be just as funny.

Do you support the actions of those who shoot abortion doctors now?

No.

I’m pro-life, but I’m not so sure I would support legislation that would outlaw abortion in and of itself. I would support legislation to outlaw the practice of performing abortions, but would also not support the death penalty for those convicted of the crime.

My belief is based on the fact that doctors have the responsibility to live up to the Hippocratic Oath, which starts “First, do no harm” and I believe that performing an abortion is a violation of this oath.

It isn’t much of a choice if you get killed for it.

Are you against vigilantism in general? Is there any situation in which vigilantism is appropriate? If so, what?

My post where I made a sample law for demonstration purposes has not had a single comment.