I was just reading an interview of Bobby Fischer where he says the following:
The challenge is to think of prominent people from ethnic Group X who hate Group X.
Not much of a challenge. I can think of any number of leaders of the Civil Rights movement such as Stokley Carmichael who later launched vicious attacks on people like Martin Luther King Jr, calling them Uncle Toms.
I know that Mr. Fischer was of Polish Jewish descent, but do we have evidence that he was raised in the religion?
That’s not really the same thing. The slur “Uncle Tom” is used against perceived self-haters and sell-outs. So if anything, Carmichael was playing the “blacker than thou” card.
Well there was that one documentary by the respected anthropologist David Chappelle…
Valete,
Vox Imperatoris
I’ve heard from any number of openly gay people in the public eye who hate other gay people or – more commonly – gay culture, the idea of gay culture or their concept of what gay culture is. And of course there are any number of queer people who spend their days tearing down entire other segments of the queer community (gays who can’t stand lesbians, transsexuals who think genderqueers are icky, butches who hate femmes, all of the above vice versa, etc.)
I can’t call them to mind at present but I throw it out there so others can supplement it.
When I was in college in New Orleans, I used to hang out with some rather prominent gay men including newscasters and military officers. The one thing that would piss them all off beyond belief was being approached by “nancy boys”. That was completely intolerable and I have never heard such hate speech and threats of violence before or since. My boss at a hotel was one of the ones involved and he was constantly on watch for nancy boys so that he could find a way to start trouble with them. He was a large, menacing Irish guy with a deep voice and would make it a point to embarrass them even if it took song and dance to humiliate them in the bar.
Not well known outside Japan, but Gregory Clark (a professor at Akita University) writes frequent editorials to the Japan Times defending anti-foreigner discrimination.
I heard he also triggers massive :rolleyes: from the people who even agree with him though, just because his mouth foams just a liiiitle too much. Any truth to that?
I remember this coming up when did a study of queer film in the 1990s and discovered that some remarkably homophobic films were helmed by gay filmmakers. I can’t think of any off the top of my head at the moment though. I keep thinking of films by Friedkin, like Cruising but I believe Friedkin is straight. If I wasn’t so tired, I could probably remember.
Scroll through any number of left wing blogs, and you’ll have no trouble finding Americans who loathe the United States with every fiber of their beings.
I’m curious: how does he frame this? “Sure, a few are good (like me), but overall they’re evil and should be kept out at all costs,”?
Valete,
Vox Imperatoris
If you read the interview, it doesn’t seem that Fischer is limiting himself to religious Jews and/or excluding secular Jews. Admittedly, the word “Jewish” is arguably ambiguous.
I’m asking for people with at least some amount of notoriety.
I’m not over there and would appreciate Sublight’s input on this matter as well, but from what I gather anti-Gaijin-rights isn’t exactly a hard to defend position over there, the other side is gaining ground, but it’s not exactly hard to get the picture of people’s views on the issue when people are crossing the street to get away from you at night (what some friends reported when they went). It’s just I’ve heard this guy in particular is just a little bit frothing to the point people go “woah, dude, I hate these guys as much as you but… no, seriously.” I don’t think he frames it at all, he just assumes he gets brownie points for being “the cool Gaijin who totally, like, you know, gets them and everything.” (Again, I’m not over there, just reporting what I heard). So basically he’s using the “I’m a Ghetto black who hates Ghetto blacks, see how cool I am?” defense. And we all know how absolutely great that works outside comedy circles. :smack:
Examples are not hard to find on any left-wing campus in America these days. While I attended Harvey Mudd College, we got regular messages from President Strauss saying things like:
“As members of the white ruling class, it is incumbent upon us to remember that we are recipients of unearned privilege. We have all benefited greatly from the exploitation of the poor and minorities. Even if we are not active members of groups that promote racism, we are all racists because we participate in the social and economics system that is built on racism etc… etc…” (Not a direct quote, but we got a lot of stuff with that general flavor.)
Needless to say, President Strauss himself was white and wealthy, and he was hardly the most extreme case. Many of the professors were much worse. Try googling for “Kerri Dunn”.
Dr. Laura hates women.
If you were receiving messages like this on a regular basis, it would suggest to me that President Strauss was rather enjoying his privileges and benefits.
astorian, the Constitution is a very “left wing” document. I remember an experiment in the late Sixties or early Seventies in which members of the counterculture tried to get people to sign copies of the Bill of Rights. So many people just wouldn’t do it.
Being Jewish isn’t just a religion, it’s also a heritage/ethnicity.