I find this behavior absolutely shameful. Spitting on these people and yelling at them to go home. And the mayor is proud of this.
While I can appreciate that this is a complicated issue, this is not the USA I was raised to be proud of. This issue actually has me in tears this morning. Jesus fucking christ, I just picture all those people on that bus. Those mothers and children being greeted in such a way just sickens me.
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shores.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me
So’s I can yell “fuck off, wetback !” at them. Ha HA.
I agree. You can certainly, and defensibly, take the position that unfettered illegal immigration attempts should be stopped, and those caught in the process of doing it should be deported.
But you should not treat the people that are doing this like subhuman garbage. They’re people, trying to flee horrors in their home lands. We may not be able to accommodate them here; we have no good reason to vilify them.
These scum were aided and abetted by the local police. They could have gotten the buses through before the crowds blocked them. It takes a lot of courage to curse at frightened children- NOT. What were they afraid of, these children were going to take their jobs? Since they were doing this in the middle of a work day, I suspect these cretins have no jobs to take. They sit around watching Faux News and listening to Hate Radio and then decide to show up and hurl racist invective at women and children. Fuckheads.
Also, said horrors are often created by US policies. First World exploitation of the Third World creates most of the conditions that push people into the migrant stream. On top of that, more than “accomodating” them, most of us in the receiving nation benefit from a free market for labor arbitrage, as do most people in the sending nation.
It reminds me of that movie “Children of Men”. For all those jerks know, one of those children will be grow up to the most important figure of the 21st century. How we treat them could be the difference between an evil dictator and a benevolent peace-maker. I wonder how many of those fools have the audacity to call themselves Christian.
Do you, and defensibly, take the position that unfettered illegal immigration attempts should be stopped, and those caught in the process of doing it should be stopped?
I’m ashamed and sad. I feel horrible for the immigrants, and sad for the protesters who are carrying around so much hate. I keep telling myself that the protesters are only 50 or so people in a town of 100,000, and that there were counter-protesters there too. But it doesn’t really make me feel better. My brain needs a shower just from looking at the pictures and listening to the shouts.
Between this and the Cliven Bundy case, it seems that right-wingers get a pass from authorities when they defy the government or disrupt government business
Why does that matter? His precise point was that, whichever side you take on the issue of immigration policy, it’s wrong to treat the migrants themselves as garbage, and to vilify them.
The protesters come off pretty much as a bunch of assholes, for sure. But did any actual spitting occur? I didn’t see a mention of that in the linked article. Chanting, flag-waving and arguing, yes, but no spitting.
Meanwhile:
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Cotton, who works as a 3D animator, said he blames Democrats for not doing more to secure the border.
“The Democrats are making it easy for them to come here so they can produce more Democratic voters,” he said.
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I hear this one all the time, and have to think it’s completely idiotic (illegal immigrants can’t vote, for one thing). Has anyone ever actually turned up a policy statement or other document (or hell, even a documented offhand comment from a party official) that this was the case?
Perhaps not explicitly, and perhaps not from party officials, but this is a key part of the strategy behind trying to flip Texas and/or Georgia and/or North Carolina. While illegal immigrants cannot vote, their children can, and if some measure of immigration reform made the process easier for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship (on top of those who marry into citizenship, though I can’t quite remember how feasible that is and may be wrong about it), the results would be momentous.
The Republicans have decided, rationally, that they have less to lose by pissing off Latinos than by admitting tens of millions of new Latino citizens.
If so, the Republicans are again demonstrating that they can’t count very well.
In 2011 the population of Mexican illegals was estimated at 6.1 million. In the period 1991-2000, the US admitted 11 million immigrants from all countries combined.
Right, but that’s just the Mexicans. They’re also predicting, I think, that the flow would increase with a clearer path to citizenship. It would, if the labor market would bear it. (That’s why immigration restrictions are counterproductive, but never mind. That’s another thing the Republicans, among others, don’t understand.)
This is why you so rarely hear about immigrants from Costa Rica, Belize, or even Panama, which are three countries that the US has usually left alone. US misdeeds toward Panama have never been on the scale of the horrific things done (past and present) to Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Honduras, from which millions have had to flee. As for Mexico, when artificially cheap US produce threw millions of Mexicans out of work, millions of others were pushed into the migrant stream.
To my second statement, how is it a lie? Is it not to the advantage of the Democrats to import potential voters? It would also help indirectly, since a family of mixed immigration status would perhaps be thankful to the party that ensured that their undocumented relatives could gain security.
So you singled out ‘unfettered’ - where do you stand on illegal immigration?
I understand his point. I’d just like to hear that rare thing - what Bricker’s honest actual opinion is on an issue, instead of what he says the law says.
And before **Bricker **pats himself on the back for being so intellectually honest and recognizing when somebody on his own side has done something wrong, I want to know where he stands. Lots of Republicans are liberal on the one issue they’ve seen touch someone in their own lives.
