Question about "Brazil" (the Terry Gilliam movie)

Near the beginning of the movie, Sam is visiting Buttle’s widow to give her the refund check. He looks up at the ceiling and sees Jill peering down through the hole left by the black baggers.
A bit later, Sam tries to track down Jill on his work computer but is denied access. He accepts a promotion and gets Harvey Lime in the next office to track her down on his computer.

My question is: Why? I thought it was obvious that Jill was Buttle’s upstairs neighbor. He already knew her name (the little girl outside the building told him that), and he knew where she lived. What, exactly, was he hoping to find on Harvey Lime’s computer? I got the impression that he was looking for her address (not sure if he specifically says that), but that can’t be right since he already knew where she lived.

Interesting question; one of my favorite movies and I never really thought of that before. I can think of three ways to handwave it.

  1. He knows where she lives, but who knows when she’ll be home. What’s Sam supposed to do, sit outside her apartment all night? Much easier to track her down at work, or wherever.

  2. It’s just the nature of people in that society; with the bureaucracy collecting so much information, it’s natural and obvious for someone to use it (especially for someone within the bureaucracy).

  3. It was necessary to push the plot in the direction that Gilliam wanted it to go. If Sam could have kept his professional and personal lives private, there wouldn’t have been the conflict that drove the last half of the film.

I agree that it’s the professional equivalent of googling someone. :stuck_out_tongue:
Curiosity; wants to know more without actually facing the person and, you know, asking questions.

Standard stalker behavior.

Sam isn’t looking for a date. He’s looking for information.

“You won’t get it!”

The Prisoner

By hook or by crook, I will.

Not in that suit, you won’t.

I’m not a number! I’m…ah…[looks at badge]…DZ/015…
This was the first movie I bought on Laserdisc. I had taped it on a movie channel back in '85, but got the longer version and the “Love Conquers All” crapfest as well as a documentary of the movie.

She had moved out…what with there being a (metric) hole in her floor and all. But Sam wasn’t really thinking clearly at that point. The following snippet is from the shooting script. I tried to bold the salient points…


               CUT TO Sam hesitantly walking into the semi-derelict lobby 
               of the big block of flats. Graffiti, vandalism are in 
               evidence everywhere. He walks up to the lift. Pushes the 
               button. Nothing happens. He pushes again. This time the 
               lift door shudders and sparks. Sam tries to pull the doors 
               apart. They jam open with a three-inch gap between them  
               still shuddering and grinding. In the sparking light, Sam 
               can make out an interior crammed with garbage, junk, old 
               furniture, dead cats. **Yechhhh. **Resignedly, he turns towards 
               the stairs.

               INT. CORRIDOR - DAY

               CUT TO Sam coming breathlessly out of the stairwell. On 
               the wall next to it is the number 37. Walking down the 
               corridor he looks at the number and starts to knock, but 
               then notices that the door is cracked open. Sam tries to 
               knock on the door, but it keeps edging open and he settles 
               for knocking on the door frame a bit feebly.

                                     SAM
                         Mrs. Buttle
                              (silence)
                         Uh, Mrs. Buttle?
                              (silence)
                         Sam stands not knowing what to do. 
                         Sam pushes the door a bit more 
                         open gingerly and puts about 65 
                         per cent of his body into the hall 
                         of the flat. CUT TO SAM'S POV of 
                         darkish hall.  Mrs. Buttle...

               INT. BUTTLE SITTING ROOM - DAY

               CUT TO Sam entering extremely tacky sitting-room shrouded 
               in half-darkness. This is the same flat from which the 
               FATHER was taken at the beginning of the film: the hole is 
               still in the ceiling. Sam becomes aware of a woman sitting 
               absolutely still at a small table by the only (still broken) 
               window in the room.

                                     SAM
                         Are you Mrs. Buttle?

               The woman nods very slightly without looking at him.

                                     SAM
                         My name is Lowry  Sam Lowry. I'm 
                         from the Ministry of Information.
                              (no response)
                         I've come to give you a cheque.

               Sam takes the cheque out of his pocket and puts it on the 
               table to tempt Mrs. Buttle into a flicker of interest but 
               she fails to notice it  or him for that matter. Sam pushes 
               the cheque a little way towards Mrs. Buttle but she does 
               not respond.

                                     SAM
                              (indicting cheque)
                         It's a refund... I'm afraid there 
                         was a mistake.

                                     MRS. BUTTLE
                         Mistake?

                                     SAM
                              (encouraged)
                         Yes. Not my department... I'm only 
                         records. It seems that Mr. Buttle 
                         was overcharged by Information 
                         Retrieval. I don't think they 
                         usually make mistakes... but, er... 
                         I suppose we're all human.

               Sam looks around and sees the hole in the ceiling.

                                     SAM
                         Oh... what happened to the...?

               He gets nothing back.

               Actually, my bringing this here is rather unorthodox... 
               Usually any payments are made through the central 
               computer... but, er... there were certain difficulties, 
               and rather than cause delay, we thought you might appreciate 
               this now... it being Christmas.

                                     MRS. BUTTLE
                         My husband's dead, isn't he?

                                     SAM
                         Er... I assure you Mrs. Buttle, 
                         the Ministry is always very 
                         scrupulous about following up and 
                         eradicating error. If you have any 
                         complaints which you'd like to 
                         make, I'd be more than happy to 
                         send you the appropriate forms.

                                     MRS. BUTTLE
                         What have you done with his body?

                                     SAM
                         Um...

               Mrs. Buttle starts to cry.

                                     SAM
                         Look, I'm very sorry, but I'm afraid 
                         I don't know anything about it... 
                         I'm really just delivering the 
                         cheque. Er... If you wouldn't mind 
                         signing these receipts
                              (producing blue and 
                              pink receipts)
                         I'll go and leave you in peace.

               Sam picks up the cheque and gives it to Mrs. Buttle together 
               with the receipts. Mrs. Buttle tears them up and throws 
               them in his face.

                                     SAM
                         Uh...

                                     MRS. BUTTLE
                         He hadn't done anything... He was 
                         good... What have you done with 
                         his body?

               Sam looks around for an escape and sees a Young Buttle 
               standing in the doorway. The Boy is looking at him with a 
               blank tearful face. Suddenly the Boy launches himself at 
               Sam with terrible ferocity. Sam is knocked against the 
               wall. A mirror falls off the wall and smashes on the floor. 
               The Boy is all over Sam kicking and pulling his hair. Mrs. 
               Buttle's reaction, however, is to try and pull the Boy 
               away from Sam. By the time she succeeds, **Sam is on his 
               hands and knees, in pain.**The Boy is crying and shouting, 
               and Mrs. Buttle is loudly trying to quieten the Boy. From 
               SAM'S POV, a piece of broken mirror lying on the floor 
               reflects the hole in the ceiling... with Jill's head and 
               shoulders framed in the hole. **The moment is unreal for Sam 
               in his dazed condition. The vision seems unreal too. Jill 
               is staring at Sam out of the piece of mirror and. she's 
               very much the Girl from his dream now.**
                                     JILL
                         Are you alright?

                                     SAM
                              (mumbles)
                         It's you... it's you...

                                     JILL
                         Mrs. Buttle, are you alright?

               Sam grabs at the image, i.e. at the mirror, shifting the 
               angle so that the vision disappears. He looks for the vision 
               on the floor but can't find it. Then he begins to realise 
               the reality of what he has seen. He stands up, dazed and 
               battered. Mrs. Buttle has been looking up at the ceiling. 
               Sam looks up at the ceiling but there is now only the empty 
               space of the hole.

                                     SAM
                         Wait! Stop! Come back!!

               Mrs. Buttle is shouting. Sam rushes out of the flat.

               INT. BUTTLE'S CORRIDOR - DAY

               Sam looks both ways and heads for the stairs.

               INT. BUTTLE'S STAIRCASE - DAY

               Sam runs up the stairs to the floor above and finds himself 
               in

               EXT. SIMILAR CORRIDOR - DAY

               He runs along the corridor but has omitted to count the 
               doors downstairs and now doesn't know which door to knock 
               at. He hesitates. He rings the bell on what he hopes is 
               the right door. The bell doesn't work. He bangs on the 
               door. The door opens a crack. A malevolent eye looks at 
               him.

                                     SAM
                         Girl... fair hair...

               The door shuts firmly. Sam rushes to the next door.

               INT. JILL'S FLAT - DAY

               **Sam bursts into Jill's flat. He sees the hole in the floor. 
               The place looks derelict. He hears an explosion and looks 
               out of a window to see his car in flames. Jill is apparently 
               retreating from it across the forecourt. She is carrying a 
               suitcase and bundles.**

               INT. STAIRCASE - DAY

               Sam rushes down the stairs.

               EXT. BLOCK OF FLATS - DAY

               Sam charges out into the open air. Jill has disappeared. 
               The Messerchmidt, however, is in flames. Sam doesn't know 
               which way to turn. Spotting an old mattress lying by the 
               building he grabs it and throws it over the car in an 
               attempt to smother the flames. The group of CHILDREN watch 
               him silently. Suddenly with a great roar, Jill's lorry 
               comes round the corner at speed. Sam sees that Jill is at 
               the wheel. Sam runs after the lorry.

                                     SAM
                              (shouting)
                         Wait! It was nothing to do with 
                         me!

               The lorry roars away. Sam dashes back to his smoldering 
               three-wheeler. He flings himself into it and starts it up. 
               He also roars away, except that he doesn't move... all 
               three wheels have been removed. He turns round in despair 
               and sees the group of children regarding him 
               expressionlessly.

               They include the little Girl Buttle.

               Defeated, he slumps down against his charred vehicle. A 
               shadow passes across his face. Looking up he sees Girl 
               Buttle standing over him.

                                     SAM
                         Go away.

                                     GIRL BUTTLE
                         Her name is Jill.

                                     SAM
                         What?... Jill? Jill who? Jill who?

                                     GIRL BUTTLE
                         Layton.

                                     SAM
                         Jill Layton...
                              (getting up)
                         You're a very good little girl. 
                         What are you doing here?

                                     GIRL BUTTLE
                         I'm waiting for my daddy.

                                     **SAM
                              (uncomprehending)
                         He will be pleased when he comes 
                         home.

               Girl Buttle doesn't answer and Sam starts to walk away. 
               After a few yards, the thought strikes him: he turns back 
               to look at the little Girl Buttle who stands alone patiently 
               in the vandalised wilderness.**


And your memory is correct, he does try to get her address…


                                     SAM
                              (taking print-out 
                              on Jill from his 
                              pocket)
                         Alright. There's someone I want to 
                         check out. A woman called Gillian 
                         Layton.

                                     LIME
                              (leering)
                         A woman eh? I see.

                                     SAM
                              (trying to ignore 
                              this)
                         I know her age and distinguishing 
                         marks. But **I need an address or a 
                         place of work or something**

                                     LIME
                              (continuing to leer)
                         This is your dream girl, is it?



Trivia: Lime is one of the screen writers Charles McKeown.
Gilliam is the mysterious man that puffs out smoke when Sam runs into him on the stairs.