One where you never had to deal with a considerably large ideological bloc wishing death on you because of circumstances beyond your control, evidently.
@QuickSilver If safe spaces shouldn’t exist, then why are you posting in one?
In all forums of this board other than the Pit, you are not allowed to bring up certain ideas that attack the other posters. There things I wish I could say right now–ideas I would like to put forth. But I am restricted by the fact this is a safe space.
Everyone in the world enjoys safe spaces sometimes. We have a direct right to control who comes on our property. We have private gatherings where only certain people are invited. We have organized discussions and debates where there are rules.
No one seems to object to safe spaces except when they involve people of color or other minorities who want to be able to discuss issues that are unique to them. Or they just want to take a break from having to be on guard for bigotry and racism. Then, all of the sudden, doing that is bad for them. It’s trying to “protect them from ideas they don’t like.”
The idea that having a space where racism and bigotry are not allowed somehow makes people unable to deal with those is ridiculous. For one, people can take breaks. For another, those safe spaces may be places where strategies for dealing with that stuff are discussed.
It’s like saying that someone taking a break from training or playing football means that they can’t know how to play football. Ignoring the racism they face when out in the real world is like ignoring the games and practice that footballers do.
They may have been liberals 30 years ago, but the world has changed over the past 30 years and they haven’t.
That understanding is incorrect.
No productive “clash of ideas and viewpoints” can be had when the ideas and viewpoints of Party X can be summarized as “Party Y should be killed”.
Your arguments are hyperbole, only tangentially tethered to reality.
You are not constrained by my need for a safe space. Feel free to post any vitriol you like about me in the pit to the exact same audience you find in this forum. It’s not as if it’s a long walk to where you can say anything you like.
There’s no shortage of vile assholes in this world. You don’t need to cite evidence for that in an effort to convince me.
That seems like an overly broad definition of safe space. Most universities already have rules in place government student behavior, which, by your definition, would make the entire campus a safe space. But that can’t be true as it’s commonly understood otherwise you wouldn’t need to designate certain areas on campus as safe. So what does it mean to be a safe space? Is it just to be free of discrimination and threats of violence? Or does it include being free from criticism or disagreement as well? I don’t think you’ll get many arguments against environments free of discrimination and threats of violence around here.
The world certainly seems to have become far less liberal but the core concept of liberalism has not changed regardless of what the world has done. You might want to check what Gervais himself thinks. I assume you don’t challenge his own definition of his political views? What political stance of his do you disagree with? What views of his mark him as illiberal?
Is the claim that students are only claiming “safe spaces” in order to protect themselves from credible threats of violence? That is surely a police matter.
I disagree. I also believe that polarisation, separation and segregation makes the situation worse, not better.
And I and a great many others would prefer that certain places have a sign out front what says “Vile Assholes Not Welcome”.
Well, you clearly missed that it is often about that. So much for “seems”, it seems.
Spoken like a privileged person. That’s the kind of person who can turn wanting a brief respite from a lifetime of oppression and terrorism into “ideas some college students don’t like”, for instance.
There are places in this world where that is not possible. We’re not talking about those places. We’re in a thread about universities, specifically those in the US.
You think most Black college students haven’t faced a lifetime of oppression and terrorism?
Are you talking about some other country than the usual, when you say “the US” 
That is … an interesting viewpoint. Stupendously wrong, but interesting.
Who said the safe spaces were about “solving the problem”? They’re for a respite from “the problem”, mostly. But apparently even a short breather from White supremacy is too much to ask for.
And you are free to go and talk to those same people outside their safe space. But you insist that they should not be allowed to have them.
And I note that you have chosen to ignore the rest of my post. You parse through other posts, arguing against them, responding line by line. So the only conclusion I can come to is that you can’t actually counter the argument I made.
You enjoy safe spaces all the time. Your home, your get togethers with friends. Any private clubs you belong to. You have all these places where you don’t have to fight for your right to not be discriminated against.
The irony is that your claim that black people don’t still face constant racism can only come about because you haven’t listened to black people who would challenge those ideas.
I think we’ve identified the problem: I ignore most posts you make because experience has taught me to do so. I honestly can’t usually get past the first few sentences. Sorry.
Now, that isn’t entirely true, all he had for @Smapti was a big
Again this “people that you disagree with” softballing bullshit.
Now imagine that you couldn’t ignore them, no matter how hard you tried, and there was a vocal contingent of people insisting that you had no right to ignore them and they had the right to impose themselves on you anywhere you go.
Sounds exhausting, right? I bet you’d wish there was somewhere you could go for awhile where those people weren’t allowed to follow you, wouldn’t you?
I haven’t heard of it either- the closest I’ve ever heard of was Catholic schools holding a special Mass for the graduates ( which does not involve speeches or honors, but merely that praying for the graduates is the intention of that Mass). But the wording is not clear to me - “Most high school have a special graduation ceremony” sounds like the school is organizing a single ceremony , but "not sponsored by the school " and “private” makes it sound as though it has nothing officially to do with the school and that each congregation might have their own ceremony for their own members ( even those graduating from different high schools, if that it possible in the area). I’m not sure which it is - or whether it’s something completely different.