If I can get my hands on some Radiohead tracks, I might join you in the corner over there–I like Hysteria, Apocalypse Please, and Time is Running Out, and I’ve got a large sample of Coldplay and Snow Patrol on my shuffle list.
My opinion is the best way properly to assess Radiohead is to start at the beginning - the simple-but-gifted highly accessible rock songs of Pablo Honey and The Bends (which IMO even at that point surpass Muse), then the ascent into unique creativity that begins with OK Computer and becomes more and more innovative and challenging with each subsequent album.
you are asking ‘who prefers who - in the dope?’ isnt that a survey as a opposed to a definitive answer?
abba vs zappa?? depends on who you ask.
i sometimes sit in with a covers band and enjoy playing ‘fake plastic trees’ hate playing ‘creep’ and enjoy ‘plug in baby’ more than either radiohead songs.
I’ve bought 3 radiohead albums and cant imagine the circs where i’d put them on again. I’d listen to ‘black holes’ again while driving tho.
Are they being compared because they both sing falsetto? I see no other similarities
MiM
So…why are they being compared? They don’t strike me as very alike.
I really loved Muse’s Showbiz cd - I can remember hearing “uno” and then eagerly awaiting the cd’s release - but nothing they’ve released since then has inspired me to add any of their other cds to my collection. And Radiohead has a few singles I enjoy, but I’ve never bought any of their cds. I guess I like Muse better then, but not much better.
Call me a thicko, but Radiohead lost me after Kid A. Pablo Honey is a pretty good album, The Bends is genius, OK Computer is genius tinged with weirdness, and then they lost the plot. I give them credit for doing something new and different though.
I can listen to every track from The Bends back-to-back and not want to skip any of them. Always nice to see local boys done good. Muse? Never heard of 'em.
I normally wouldn’t post this sort of response, but the OP did refer to “everyone <he talks to> who is into current rock music” having an opinion on this. I just wanted to note that both myself and most of my other friends who are into current rock music could honestly give a damn. Radiohead has a decent song or two, and I won’t deny the obvious talent going into their music… but, no offense, they just don’t “rock” very much. They’re only tangentially in the same genre of music as the “rock” that I listen to, and that my local bands play, and that can be heard on my local rock radio stations. The music just isn’t that interesting. I freely admit that I may just “not get” Radiohead.
Muse is, as others have noted, not even in THAT part of the discussion. And this comes from someone who would rather see Undead Freddie Mercury in concert than Undead Kurt Cobain.
(Though I should note that the Grammy Award Category Maker People have decided that music that I would call “vanilla-pop” is “rock”, “pop-rock” is “hard rock”, and “hard rock” is “metal”, so I am apparently crazy. Or more hardcore than I think I am. One or the other.)
Count me in among the people who is young enough (23) that, combined with the fact I’m still not really “into” music, I’ve never heard any Radiohead with the knowledge of who I was listening to at the time.
I really enjoy Muse because of the blend of loud rock with a curiously old-world european element to their melodies (at least, on Absolution, that is).
I get bored of always reading about how they’ve ripped off radiohead. Frankly, the whole music-nerd street-cred thing is ridiculous to me. I’d never call Coldplay great, but I like a couple of their tracks. They’re good soundtrack material. They also don’t sound remotely like Muse, so how they’re both supposed to be Radiohead rip-offs boggles my mind. I just never got all the bullshit about who’s cool, who’s corporate crap, and I roll my eyes whenever I hear performers being called “sell-outs” or people talking about how someone was cool until they made such-and-such album.
The big Metallica fans all seem to like their stuff from the 80’s when they were still underground. My favorite Metallica stuff is the 4 or 5 songs that get played on the radio, which as I understand it, are supposed to be from their crap albums.
Green Day was widely accused of being sell-outs who don’t have anymore talent in the mid-late 90’s. Then they came out with the album Good Riddance (time of your life) is on, and all the haters had to eat crow.
One of the leading guys behind the British Punk scene was quoted as saying that he didn’t need to listen to a single track from Led Zeppelin III to know it was all shit. He could tell from the goofy cover. Led Zeppelin! Not even their mediocre albums (Presence, Coda), LZ3!
As far as I’m concerned, anybody who wants to shit-talk Muse can bite my crank. And for all the talk I’ve seen about Radiohead, you’d think they were Hal Jordan’s Green Lantern, or some shit. :rolleyes:
Thisiswhatit sounds like to me when I hear people spouting off about music.
Talk Show Host, Kinetic, Fog, Polyethylene, The Trickster, Palo Alto, Like Spinning Plates (live), Pearly, Permanent Daylight, Cuttooth, India Rubber…
Radiohead could put out an album of B-sides, and it would be their best album. I would probably recommend Talk Show Host to someone trying to understand the appeal of Radiohead.
I hate Radiohead. People have been feeding me guff about how they’re the Greatest Band In The History Of Recorded Music for years but I’ve never seen any sort of genius in their music.
Muse at least have Our Time Is Running Out, which is a pretty good song.
Oh, they aren’t readily-accessable either, but when Absolution came out, the local alt-rock station & the local Infinity broadcasting rock station (god I miss those stations*) featured play for the radio-released songs off it. I liked the 3 or 4 songs enough to go out and buy the album. I often think that the real secret to Radiohead’s success is they’ve maintained a kind of indie-cred because almost everyone’s heard of them, but only people of a specific demographic, or who are really “into” music, actually know any of their stuff.
*Of course, the Infinity station isn’t really gone, but they only play music after 6 pm and on the weekends anymore, and they aren’t getting new songs for that play-list.