Chronos voted for Wanderers because Wanderers voted based on the typo/s he discovered. If the typos themselves aren’t scummy, and somebody votes because of the typos, what’s incongruous about voting for the person who casts the anti-typo vote?
OK, granted Wanderers did vote, but I’m just seeing the voters for him as scummier than his vote. I do hope he unvotes NAF for that Joseph thing, though.
That seems weird. Help me out. Why, to your eye, is it less scummy to cast a vote on a person for doing something that isn’t scummy than it is to cast a vote for a person for casting that vote in the first place?
It seems like it ought to follow logically that if the typo was not scummy, then a vote based on the typo must be scummier than the vote against the person casting it. Or at least the same level of scumminess, maybe; it just doesn’t seem possible to me that there’s a better scum motivation to lynch a player for an unjustified vote than there is to lynch a player for having a typo in his post.
Well, I don’t think the vote was unjustified when he first made it. The fact that he hasn’t rescinded the vote since we’ve realized that the typo is in more than one post says more to me, actually.
His vote was based on the fact that the typo is in multiple posts:
Okay, I agree it could have been a mod mistake. But I’m not sure why it’s such a bad reason to vote for someone on. Aren’t we basically taking stabs in the dark here on day one?
No, of course. These are all lightweight cases. Some can still be better than others.
But as it turns out, I misread your initial post (misinterpreted the context for the “worst” in “At worst, the typos mean nothing except a moderator who made a mistake.”). You never actually said that the typos weren’t scummy, which means the inconsistency I was confused about wasn’t actually there.
For the record, even though I just confused myself while defending it, I would not have voted based on Wanderers’ vote. I’m voting for him because I didn’t think demanding a full copy-and-paste from someone who had already name-claimed was helpful.
I am Town. How am I to know what information Scum had to begin with? I mean, isn’t this usually what makes scum, scum? If scum don’t know their scum-mates, this game might well never end.
Or, are you saying that they don’t have this information, by design?
Don’t hang me me for making an assumption that has remained true for 100% of my games heretofore.
On the assumption that Religious people are only in this game to provide “prayer” or protection.
Because it invites people not to play their best game. **If you are going to vote based on word of mod typo, we might as well not play at all. **
Freudian, you are coming out of nowhere on all of this. A bit off for your part, methinks.
But we don’t know that it was a mod typo yet. It could very well have been scum making up a post.
Anyway, maybe the religious posts are doctor types. I’m wondering what fictional means. I know I wasn’t given any special duties or other roles in my PM…
NETA: All I’m saying is that the typo thing did look a little weird, but that so far it could mean anything. It could mean that Wanderers is right, or he could be scum jumping on an easy reason to vote for a lynch.
If nothing else, even if the Scum don’t know each others’ role-names (and everything else in each others’ PMs) right now, we can be pretty well certain that they’ll know toNight. Typically the first thing on the Scum board is the Scum introducing themselves to each other, and they have no reason to hold anything back at all from their teammates. When that happens, yes, they probably will be able to make better use of that information than we are, and that’s regrettable. But it’s part of the way the game works: We can’t keep Town in the dark for the sake of keeping Scum in the dark, too.
My list FWIW…
TexCat Benedict Arnold (Traitor).
Tom Scud Busby Berkeley (Choreographer).
Oredigger George Washington (President).
special ed Guy de Maupassant (Writer)
Freudian Slit Patroclus (Greek). You are Fictional.
Red Skeezix Ogden Nash (Poet).
Meeko Joan Miró (Aritst)
Mahaloth Samuel Johnson (Critic).
storyteller Baldrick (Servant). You are Fictional.
GuiriEnEspana Gustave Eiffel (Architect).
One & Only Wanderers Fu Mingxia (Olympic Gold Medalist).
KellyCriterion Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Composer).
MHaye Tim Horton (Canadian).
NAF1138 Joesph Smith (Mormon)
Jimmy Chitwood Alexander Graham Bell (Inventor)
Rysto Petr Cech (Goalkeeper).
Chonos Jesse Jackson (Reverend).
Drain Bead Eva Peron (Spiritual Leader of the Nation of Argentina).
Zeriel Lysander (Lover). You are Fictional.
peekercpa wicked witch of the west???
I didn’t say they didn’t know who the other Scum are, I ask how you knew the Scum knew the role names of the other Scum.
You didn’t imply, you directly stated that the Scum know each others’ role names.
I agree that it is standard operating procedures for Scum to know who the other Scum are, but it is definitely not standard operating procedure for them to know each other’s role names or roles.
I’m saying that I don’t know that they have this information.
OK, now you’re saying you just assumed it. Perhaps because you subbed in you missed the discussion of this in Colorless. It became a large point of discussion when drain was up for lynching that it would have been ballsy for a Scum goon to vote to bus a fellow Scum on Day 1. I know you were in the game at that point.
Why do you put credence in the fact that the role names imply some sort of power? Why especially when the game is called Random Mafia?
I think TexCat’s list is right, though it is not in claim order. I assume it is in the random order sach gave us early one?
Are we through it then? Did everyone claim?
NETA:
Except peeker, I mean.
Hi guys. It’s been a busy weekend; I’ll try to give things a reread, do some scum hunting, and take a look at the Wanderers vs. others case tomorrow.
One day, Ed and I will have a game of Mafia where we won’t knock each other around on Day 1.
**
This is not that game. **
Why do you NOT put credence in the fact that role names imply power?
1b.Are you guessing that there are no powers in this game?
1c.If there were to be powers in this game, what names would have them?
or Do you KNOW something about powers in this game?
Why are you pushing me on this?
2b.Do you need to come back to this later and vote me because of it?
NETA :
I mean, I’m guessing that there is a Priestly / Messiah type protector role in this game, and I believe I am looking in the right place for it. Combine the WEAKEST reason* for a vote I have ever seen, and you know, I think I am on to something here.
*I hence forth christen the OMGTMRAGS Vote.
Oh my god, the Moderator’s roles as given sucks vote.
I have a dream, that one day, Mafia players won’t be voted based on the transposition of their names, but based on the content of their character.
I’m not trying to bait you. I’m just curious as to how you reached your conclusions.
1b. I think there are power roles in this game. I don’t think sachertorte is inclined to allow us to guess that name implies power. I think he even went so far as to title the game ‘Random’
1c. I think there are power roles with randomly assigned names.
Nope, which is why I was wondering why you were claiming to know something about them, as well as knowing something about the Scum.
Because you have stated something as fact (that scum know each others names) while I have no idea how you would know that. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to question you on that. It does tend to fall into the PIS category.
Additionally, I have a request. When anyone questions you on your comments or statements, please just answer them instead of turning it into a discussion of ‘why do people pick on Meeko’ This Mafia, not Mafia featuring Meeko.