Throw me on the sub list.
Peeker makes 20.
Will be get a rule listing, time frame, and so forth when we begin?
Advice you don’t want while we’re still in the pregame stage, because I’m not going to talk about this kind of stuff once we start: it’s a game. Every post that you read is going to be an attempt to play the game. To the extent that you take it personally or read it as an obvious criticism of you as anything other than a gamepiece, you’re doing it wrong and/or getting played by somebody who knows he or she can play you.
I say that for a few reasons. One, you got really upset at me last time we played because we disagreed about a couple things, and I’m going to need you on my side if you’re on my side again this time. Two, I watched the last game pretty well start-to-finish and it was very frustrating to watch you get angry and start taking the game personally, because it ruined the experience of reading the game. And three, most importantly to me, I don’t want to play a game where every third post is a really frustrating diversion from actual gameplay, so I want to get all of this out there so I don’t have to make frustratingly out-of-game posts once we start. Fourth, probably most importantly to everyone else, since I don’t want to have this conversation anymore, my only real way to deal with it during the game if I think somebody is making it difficult to play the game is to vote for them.
How’s that sound? Everybody agrees up front we don’t care how anybody approaches the game philosophically or how “good” they are, that voting isn’t a popularity contest and disagreements and contradictions are going to happen, and we just play the game?
Yup. Agreed.
I am very excited to play in this game, btw.
I think this is a good idea. Town shouldn’t be too reluctant to vote players for anti-town play, otherwise scum have a free pass to play anti-town.
Me too. I haven’t played in a real game in a long time, and this one has some heavy hitters in it. It should be lots of fun.
At the risk of seemingly not ““Getting it”” per Jimmy’s point. :
Jimmy, wouldn’t that statement have gone over better for everyone, if my quote was not included? I mean, yes, I get that you are talking to me. But, aren’t you not also talking to everyone else? It seems kinda double standard-ish to make a glossing statement about essentially not attacking people, when you single out a single person to begin your discourse.
I get the general idea of “being on your side”, however, I don’t think you meant to imply “abandon your alignment and play with me”, regardless.
But, since I feel I have to answer this, let me add one more thing.
My play is improving, it’s just not all together yet. There is only one way to actually improve play, and that is, to play. To say nothing of the fact that we both are in different “places” starting off this game, than we were in the previous.
Yes, “everyone” indeed meant everyone. But yes, I was talking to you. If it’s a double standard to address a concern toward a person who gave rise to the concern, then I will reluctantly admit that I have a double standard when it comes to wanting to avoid a needlessly personal approach to Mafia play.
Chiefly, though, I’m trying to avoid a double standard once the game starts in terms of that kind of approach to the game. If I (or presumably anyone else) disagrees with something you say or do once the game starts, I’d like it to be on the record that it’s not because you’re you, but because I disagree with what you said or did. And I don’t think it will be good for the game if you respond as though there’s always such an imbalance working against you.
Anyway, you can of course take what I have to say or leave it; for me it’s enough to get it out there before I have a side to be on.
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The game will operate on a weekly schedule. Days will start at some semi-arbitrary point during the weekend; ideally Saturday Afternoon (2PM EDT), but no later than Sunday Morning. Days will end at precisely on Thursdays at 2:00 PM EDT by the SDMB clock. Board outages will not change the end of Day; plan carefully. All votes must have a time stamp of Thursday, 1:59 PM EDT or earlier. Posts and votes with time stamps Thursday, 2:00PM EDT or later will be ignored.
Night instructions are due by Saturday 2:00PM EDT by SDMB clock.
Failure to meet the deadline will result in no action.
Vote LikeThis
Votes must be in bold blue, on a single line, by itself. Please don’t play hide the vote from the moderator. Everyone will be happier with accurate vote counts. (For strict interpretation, any vote in blue will be considered an intended vote. Bold, single line, by itself is a moderator request, not a requirement)
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Unvotes are to be made in bold red, on a single line, by itself.
Messages to the moderator should be in bold green, on a single line.
The moderator encourages questions to the moderator to be sent via PM.
Lynches will be by plurality. The leading vote-getter at 2:00PM EDT on Thursday will die.
Ties are bad. Don’t do them.
Ties will be resolved by timestamp. The tied player who received the most recent vote will live.
A No Lynch will occur if an uncontested plurality of votes accumulates for No Lynch. A tie with No Lynch will result in someone getting lynched as if the No Lynch votes didn’t exist at all.
Substitutions/Removal:
I will allow substitutions up through the Dawn of Day Four. Past Day Four’s Dawn, missing players will be removed from the game with no public indication of role or alignment. Substitutions may happen at anytime. Removals will occur at Dusk.
Prodding:
The moderator will not prod anyone. Failure to participate will result in substitution/removal.
Win Condition:
Individual win conditions will not change during the course of the game. Your team wins when all threats to your team are neutralized.
There are no third parties.
Closed Setup:
An inventory of roles will not be published.
A standard Town role PM will be public information.
Stuff you should already know:
- Game related communication outside the game thread is forbidden, except for scum who may communicate at Night and only at Night.
- Be nice.
- Only living players may post game relevant discussion to the game thread.
- Editing posts is not allowed. Punishment for an edited post will be removal from the game.
Can we all agree right now that from the moment Sach sends out the roles all communication is to be viewed as “in game” and should be treated as such? Nothing is personal, it’s all mafia. That means that if I tell you to fuck of and die (unlikely, but it’s happened, right sach;)) I am only telling you that “in game” and that I don’t really hate you, and you are well within your rights to vote me for doing so.
When do we get our PMs?
Patience. Jeez. Roles are going out in the order of the random list in post #69.
Sorry. I’m totally psyched!
F-everyone’s-I: I will probably not post much, throughout this game, on weekends. I will do my best to not vanish altogether, but any comments I do have time to make on weekends will usually be quickie responses and not in-depth analyses.
I am in the same boat. I will not be around almost at all from Friday at 5pm pacific time, until Monday at 8am pacific time. I don’t see that changing even a little bit.
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Should I take this as worded, or is their a group of people you didn’t mention here? **
And / Or
Did Ed just rejoice at the implication, of what that rule means?
I am as well. Once I move home I won’t have access to a computer outside of work hours and unless someone has set up an unsecured wireless network while I was away my phone won’t be able to access the net either.
(I’m planning on buying a computer with my tax money look for the thread asking for advice coming soon.)
Like’s been said: Stay cool. Once the game starts, by definition nothing is personal–you’re not “Meeko”, you’re “whatever your role PM says, and that identity happens to have the label of Meeko in this context”. You play ever so much better when you’re not convinced people are out to personally get you, so I’m advising you to realize that no one’s out to personally get you. 
HOW ON EARTH am I just now finding this out?
I’ll try to remember to check tonight. I very rarely check stuff like that–I usually just turn it on and then start playing.