Day Two in (sort of) brief:
Freudian starts us off with a vote for Meeko (651). Logic is that his “clearing” of Kelly on the basis of probability is flawed. I don’t necessarily agree that this is vote-worthy, but it’s not egregious. However, Rysto disagrees and votes for Freudian (655), arguing that if Meeko had known his reasoning was bad, he would have also known he couldn’t sneak bad reasoning past us.
I disagree with Rysto here. Suppose Meeko as Scum and Kelly as Town. A good gambit for Scum is always to find some reason to clear a Townie – that makes the Townie in question subtly favor you and doesn’t put you in a position to be spectacularly wrong. A hypothetical Scum Meeko could have seized on this argument, thinking it adequate for his purposes.
Except: Freudian seems invested in the idea that Meeko is doing this as Scum, trying to protect fellow Scum in Kelly (as she outlines at 660). But this is problematic, because why, then, go for Meeko but not Kelly. I know she only has one vote, but if the argument against Meeko (in her mind) hinges on Kelly-as-Scum, then the more reasonable approach would be to vote Kelly first. Right? Ping on Freudian. Meeko OMGUSes Freudian at this point; he puts a bunch of words in her mouth, by the way – saying that she said that he said (heh) that he would never vote for Kelly, which she never claimed that I can see. Anyway, two votes Freudian, one vote Meeko.
Now we get a string of ed-on-Meeko posts, which frankly, have become an utter non-tell for me. Could be anything.
Now Wanderers strikes up a discussion of why NAF was killed. His first major suggestion concerns the damned mis-spelling, and Jimmy Chitwood jumps on him for it at 703, but without voting (Jimmy basically thinks Wanderers’ approach is flawed and self-centered but not necessarily Scummy).
Tom Scud votes Texcat at 706. He thinks TexCat’s peeker vote was opportunistic, and I agree.
Zeriel votes Drain Bead, evidently for the same reason as Day One. This is a weird thing. I get where Zeriel is coming from, but both his proposed explanation and Drain Bead’s proffered explanation seem about equally likely. So another null tell, in my opinion. But Z also promulgates a bit of suspicion of Tom for his use of the term “overnight thread,” which is kind of silly, to me. Rysto, at 716, points out some problems with Zeriel’s approach. I agree with Rysto’s post here.
Oredigger votes for Jimmy. I don’t exactly understand why, but the vote is subsequently withdrawn. Moving on.
Toward the bottom of Page 15, we get a bit of Mahaloth, kind of urging everyone to participate:
I’m not a huge fan of posts like this – sort of rah! Rah! We need to do better, guys! – particularly when couched with that “Perhaps I’m wrong,” which is a nice way to duck away from conflict. Coupled with Mahaloth’s own agnosticism regarding voting (his major substantive post at this point is one where he suggests that Drain’s apparently general but in practice specific smudge of Zeriel could be an attempt to “stir disorder up by taking what one individual did and try to spread it out and make it sound like there is some kind of negative trend occurring” (even as Mahaloth himself is kind of trying to make it sound like there is some kind of negative trend occurring) and this sequence causes me to view Mahaloth with some suspicion.
More to come in a separate post.
