a random wikipedia game? This makes me rejoice!
I doubt it’d help–the revealed name in the sample PM isn’t from anything close to the same universe as mine, AND ShadowFact’s “death” included a role but not a name so we have to believe we might not even get names upon death reveal.
I don’t think it will get us anywhere one way or the other, so I am in favor. More information is always good.
Confirming receipt of role PM. Probably won’t be on much until tomorrow morning.
I think a name claim will at least lock in the potential roles a player could have. I’d be surprised if John Wayne was our doctor but not surprised if he was our vig. Of course the danger in this is that we’ll give the scum places to start shooting.
I’m not against it but I enjoy trying to game the game almost as much as trying to play it.
By the way, in case you hadn’t pieced it together yourself, the roles were assigned randomly.
I’m not understanding the question.
Should we also look closely at people who are cagey about claiming? Scum haven’t had a chance to contact each other about deciding if they should make something up (a la the rotifier claim from last game).
You’ve basically confirmed that if there are any masons, they can’t communicate off-board.
Wow, that was quicker than I’d expected. Confirming receipt of role.
On to game business, I feel comfortable in saying that my role is that of a real (non-fictional) person, and that my PM included a link to that person’s Wikipedia page. I do not yet have a firm opinion on the subject of a mass name-claim: I’d like to hear proponents and opponents give arguments on that subject first. If we do decide to do a mass name-claim, though, it should probably be toDay, before the Scum have a chance to coordinate, to increase the chance of catching someone in an inconsistency.
Meanwhile on the roles, I think that we can safely assume that we have a Doctor and a Detective, or close approximations thereof, given that sachertorte expressed the opinion in the just-finished Pond game that a lack of those roles in a closed setup is a huge bias against Town (since it means Scum faking those claims will never be counterclaimed).
Not sure what to think about name-claiming. For one thing, if the names were picked out at random from wikipedia, how do we even know if the names correspond to alignments? My name is kind of vaguely Town, but that’s only one datapoint, and one that is only available to me.
On the other hand, I remember LOST mafia, where if Town had jumped straight to a name-claim we probably would have broken the game wide open.
Well, since I never have masons communicate privately, it’s probably a good bet that I’ll continue the practice.
Also, my name came with a parenthetical Capitalized Profession (like the sample PM); it seems like a reasonable guess that everyone else’s did as well. Still, if we do a name claim we should probably leave those out as they’d make what was already a scum fisherman’s paradise even more favorable.
how’s life hoosier?
Well, we don’t. In fact a name claim is probably meaningless, but that’s all the more reason to do it I think.
I can’t see any real downside, and the upside is probably non existent, but when in doubt I say you should always opt for more information rather than less.
vote story
i’ve just got to vote a strong player on the chance that they are scum or not.
I agree we need to do it toDay if we’re going to and preferably early in the Day so we can work with the data a bit but I don’t think we’re going to catch any scum with it toDay. Since it appears that the roles are based on random wiki entries it won’t take much to create a fake PM if the scum are obvious names. What I think the benefit would be is that once we claim names it will hurt the scum later in that, like I said earlier, John Wayne won’t be able to claim to be the Doc. By limiting what powers the scum can claim before they claim them we’ve put ourselves a step ahead.
Just to be balance by telling the scum the towns potential powers we’ve made their job of hunting power roles easier as well
On the plus side, the random element could also mess with the scum’s role fishing - it’s not like LOST where everyone knew that Jack would be the doctor et cetera.
On balance, I’d be in favor of a name claim.
well i can tell you that my name has nothing to do with game capabilities. name claims just muddy the waters and give scum a nice little hand hold on which to attack. or misguided players in the case of ed.
plus if i stay in this sucka long enough you will get some cool video links.
bwth, either way i can be cool with it.
Quoth Oredigger:
Right, I think it’s unlikely that anything we do will catch us a Scum toDay (really, how often is the first-Day lynch correct, anyway? I’ve never seen it happen). But doing a name-claim toDay will prevent the Scum from saying “OK, I’m planning on claiming Doctor, so I’m going to take the name Clara Barton. Don’t anybody pick Jonas Salk” (or whatever).
On the other hand, if we do have exactly one claimed name that looks consistent with Doctor, and exactly one claimed name that looks consistent with Detective, then the Scum will have a field day with their Night-kills. One suggestion I’ve seen (I think it was in Lost) was that the real Doctor should be encouraged to come up with a generic-looking fake claim: That way, the still-hidden Doctor could protect the presumably-outed Detective.
Quoth Tom Scud:
Eh, if all the names are people with Wikipedia articles, it wouldn’t be all that hard to look up what the person’s profession is, anyway. I don’t see that that makes much difference.