That makes me feel better that there are less crazies then I thought. Even the I think Meeko will have some interesting stories.
Note, of course, that the population the census workers actually talk to are a non-random sample. They’re just the folks who didn’t send in their forms correctly. So it’s not 20% of the entire population that are crazy that way, just 20% of those who didn’t respond are.
Yes, that was what I meant. I was giving percentages of those who did not send it in, not percentages of the whole. Most people just fill it out and return it.
TexCat (Freemason) is dead.
** Vote Drain Bead **
Farewell TexCat!
I would have expected scum to target our claimed Doc over a mason. Either Rysto is scum, or the scum don’t have a roleblocker, or scum had other reasons for killing TexCat and confirming the masonry.
With just one claimed mason left I need to claim now before Cookies is killed and cannot confirm me. I’m the third and final mason.
Tentatively accepting Rysto’s claim, we are left with 6 unknowns of which 1-4 are scum:
Tom Scud
special ed
Red Skeezix
Meeko
Mahaloth
Drain Bead
Using the points system and the information currently in play (probable Cop, claimed Doc, Vig, 3-person masonry, no scum roleblocker), I’m guessing we were initially faced with a 5 person scum team, probably with a godfather or investigator. I doubt two members of either team were mod-killed as this would be quite unfair on that team (especially as the two players had posted and voted yesterDay) so I’d like to think we lost one town and one scum - leaving us 3 scum to catch - and 1 mislynch.
Looking at the 6 unknowns, I maintain a suspicion of practically all of them. I’m half-way through a full re-read and hope to draw some conclusions later.
@ Special Ed, is your vote on Drain based on her one-off vote on OreDigger on Day1 and then voting for the same target as him on Day3? Or do you have more to your case (the skimming of Meeko’s posts, for example)? What about her “This whole post REEKS” response to OreDigger’s vote on Chronos, more bussing?
@ Cookies, I’ve done a WoW on Tom and, like TexCat, have a gut feeling about him but have no evidence to back up a case. What do you find scummy about him apart from the “slip”, his propensity to vote for masons?97 Reviews rules
111 Unsure about name claim and randomness of names/alignments, has a vaguely towny name
113 Adds that his name includes a profession, suggests omitting this
118 Is in favor of name claim
121 Agrees with Chronos that town power roles should false claim
155 Claims Busby Berkeley
199-200-203-204 Corrects Mahaloth’s list to include Peeker, notes missing claims
277 Will reread
328 Votes TexCat for vote on Peeker both after he clarified his role and after she stated there was no advantage to copy/paste in 208
390 Corrects vote tally
449 Clarifies Ed scenario of Peeker as scum
469 Corrects vote tally again
476 Reviews cases so far, doesn’t find Peeker or OaOW scummy, will keep an eye on Kelly, comfortable with vote on Tex, blames Peeker for current situation
477 Hoping for MHaye to summarize the events of the Day
554 Updates review of cases, notes 7 non voters, encourages “townies” to vote
571 Moves vote to Kelly to avoid a one-off, doesn’t like cases against Peeker or Chronos
630 Fluff
706 “Overnight thread” comment in defense of Drain, questions MHaye’s vote on Chronos - doesn’t think Chronos rode Peeker, will keep an eye on Meeko, votes TexCat for opportunistic vote on Peeker
710 Clarifies “overnight thread”
719 Declines to argue over possible slip
741 Responds to Chronos on experience with multiple-thread games - just 1
774 Comments on MHaye’s explanation of vote on Chronos
777 FOSes MHaye
780 Still happy with TexCat vote, two marks in her favor: evil name & noting Meeko’s typo
783 Votes Freudian for voting a second player for being an anti-town distraction
788 Explains & defends vote to Mahaloth, bandwagoning, opportunistic voting
789 NETA
846 Reviews case against OaOW, prefers vote on Freudian but not against case. Also sees Story’s case on Mahaloth as valid - has not stuck neck out
877 Reviews votes, notes that TexCat has defended herself
886 Fluff
923 Comments on deaths, Story was suspicious of Chronos
953 Responds to Mahaloth’s early vote
969 Notes inconsistency between TexCat’s stance on copy/paste in #208 and her suspicions of Jimmy and Chronos - she doesn’t understand why people would want to hide information from town, votes TexCat
970 Thinks Story was the cop, no advantage to false claiming otherwise
979 Comments on TexCat’s change of mind on Freudian’s scumminess
980 NETA
988 Self-defense against Cookies’s case
1002 Self-defense vote on Chronos
1010 To Jimmy, defends post on OaOW without following it up with a vote, expresses suspicion of OreDigger for vote on Chronos
1047 Votes Oredigger, points out typo in name claim
1048 NETA
1106 To Meeko, explains how Oredigger’s typo is different
1112 Believes mason claim but not how being masons makes Cookies case against him any stronger. Defends voting record.
1181 Is pinged by Drain’s “nobody’s talking about Tom” when in fact a number of players have
1183 Apologises to TexCat but found inconsistencies in her play and was suspicious
1189-1199-1203 Fluff@ Drain, yesterDay you asked twice about why nobody was talking about Tom and was concerned that he’d escaped a lynch and needed more scrutiny. You voted for Chronos just before Cookies made her case against Tom on Day 3 and didn’t comment on the case then. What has Tom done since then to make you so concerned that nobody’s talking about him?
Voting for me essentially for finding Scum on Day One is pretty weak, all told. It happened in Screamers too, and I was on Rysto in Cecil Pond early and picked up quick votes for it as well. Sometimes I feel like Cassandra in this game. My weak-ass Day One cases are generally right. The only time I’ve ever engaged in bussing as Scum was in Colorless, and that was probably the strongest Day One case I’ve ever come up with!
I think Tom and Ed are Scum, not sure about who else. We have a bunch of pretty strong players left in the unconfirmed pool.
vote Tom
It’s not so much what Tom has done (I think he’s mostly laying low for the time being) but what happened after he was close to the noose. Now, Oredigger was an obvious pick, and I’m sure Scum saw his inevitable end coming and were quick on the pile-on, but it seemed like people were purposely avoiding talking about Tom, hoping that the issue would go away.
Yes, I believe it was a one-off vote on Oredigger designed to provide some Townie Cred later in the game.
While I don’t have a problem with her voting for Chronos like Oredigger did on Day 3, the problem is, she completely criticized Oredigger’s vote and made no mention that she was voting the same way. It just struck me as Scum on Scum tactics.
The skimming isn’t really an issue, though it is anti-Town
Updated for TexCat’s death and Guiri’s claim.
Day One
**peekercpa **(4): [del]Zeriel 151 190[/del], [del]TexCat 314 356[/del], Chronos 360, Meeko 383, Freudian Slit 478, Mahaloth 482
**KellyCriterion ** (3): NAF1138 313, Jimmy Chitwood 484, Tom Scud 571
**Chronos ** (3): [del]storyteller0910 416 564[/del], peekercpa 450, storyteller0910 [COLOR=Black]590, MHaye [/COLOR]591
Drain Bead (2): Zeriel 560, special ed 565
TexCat (1): Red Skeezix 316, [del]Tom Scud 328 571[/del], [del]peekercpa 346 450[/del]
Oredigger77 (1): Drain Bead 347
**Red Skeezix **(1): TexCat 356, [del]Freudian Slit 364 478[/del]
**Zeriel **(1): [del]storyteller0910 564 567[/del], One And Only Wanderers 570
**Rysto **(1): GuiriEnEspaña 576
Freudian Slit (1): Rysto 577
**NAF1138 **(0): [del]One And Only Wanderers 179 288[/del], [del]KellyCriterion 242 244[/del]
**storyteller0910 **(0): [del]peekercpa 116 201[/del]
One And Only Wanderers (0): [del]Chronos 180 360[/del], [del]Jimmy Chitwood 184[/del], [del]Meeko 220 291[/del]
**Mahaloth **(0): [del]Meeko 291 298[/del]
Not Voting (2) : KellyCriterion, Oredigger77
Day Two
One And Only Wanderers (8): Jimmy Chitwood 757, Oredigger77 760, Freudian Slit 763, Mahaloth 815, GuiriEnEspaña 855, Drain Bead 865, Zeriel 874, Chronos 882
Freudian Slit (8): Rysto 655, Meeko 666, Tom Scud 783, Red Skeezix 835, special ed 861, OAOW 871, TexCat 880, MHaye 885
**Mahaloth **(1): storyteller0910 833
Jimmy Chitwood (0): [del]Oredigger 717 734[/del], [del]One And Only Wanderers 751 871[/del], [del]TexCat 795 880[/del]
Drain Bead (0): [del]Zeriel 715 874[/del]
**GuiriEnEspaña **(0): [del]Chronos 803 882[/del]
**TexCat **(0): [del]Tom Scud 706 783[/del]
Tom Scud (0): [del]Mahaloth 787 815[/del]
**Meeko **(0): [del]Freudian Slit 651 763[/del]
Day Three
**Chronos **(7): [del]special ed 924 995[/del], Red Skeezix 974, Drain Bead 984, Oredigger77 990, GuiriEnEspaña 1000, Tom Scud 1002, Rysto 1005, Jimmy Chitwood 1013
**Tom Scud **(4): Mahaloth 931, Zeriel 954, Chronos 971, **ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies **986, [del]Jimmy Chitwood 1004 1013[/del]
**Oredigger77 **(2): special ed 995, MHaye 1015
Jimmy Chitwood (1): TexCat 941
**TexCat **(1): [del]Tom Scud 969 1002[/del], Meeko 982
Day Four
**Oredigger77 **(10): GuiriEnEspaña 1032, TexCat 1035, special ed 1037, Drain Bead 1039, Tom Scud 1047, MHaye 1116, Rysto 1127, Mahaloth 1135, Red Skeezix 1136, Zeriel 1164
**Rysto **(2): Oredigger77 1137, Meeko 1153
Tom Scud (1): [del]Mahaloth 1031 1133[/del], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 1111
**ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies **(0): [del]Rysto 1028 1051[/del]
**TexCat **(0): [del]Meeko 1029 1110[/del]
Player List:
Alive:
Tom Scud
special ed
Red Skeezix
Meeko
Mahaloth
GuiriEnEspana
Cookies
Rysto
Drain Bead
Dead:
Oredigger
Freudian Slit
storyteller
MHaye
NAF1138
Jimmy Chitwood
One and Only Wanderers
Chronos
Zeriel
peekercpa
TexCat
If we started with 20, I would guess 4-5 Scum, which means we have 1-4 Scum left out of 9 players.
Best case, we’re at 8-1 (I doubt)
worst case we’re at 5-4 which means potential lynch or lose toMorrow.
Most likely case is one of Zeriel and MHaye are Scum (I’d lean Zeriel)
With 3 Masons, I’d lean towards 5 Scum.
It means we are probably at 6-3 with 1 mislynch left. Though we could be at lynch or lose.
Which is probably why Town is losing.
Drain, would you consider yourself a good player? 
Vote Tom
It’s where my vote was before Oredigger’s odd claim.
Why do you think Town is losing? If we nab Scum toDay, to me we’re doing well.
I’m not a great player, but I’m not a bad player either. I’m more of an instinctual player than a lot of people, which can get me in trouble–I put more weight on hunches than I probably should, but I have a decent track record with my hunches, too.
Hi all. Sorry about not posting; I’m in the awkward position of having my prior suspects either die or turn up Town; I was considering a case against Zeriel when Digger’s case looked assured, mainly for choosing a very narrow focus and suspecting people for reasons that really aren’t open to discussion; but I didn’t want to go into it while he was dealing with whatever the medical emergency was, and then, well.
And now I need to go back and do some careful reading and I have no idea when I’ll be able to do that. I’ve got arguments why everyone in the unconfirmed pool is scum (taking it alphabetically, I did not like Drain’s “gosh why is no one suspicious of Tom” argument yesterday; I remember ed spending a lot of time poking at peeker on Day 1; Mahaloth put a couple votes on me for fairly flimsy reasons before coming up with something that at least looked like a case yesterday; Meeko seemed unusually freaked out by the Oredigger wagon yesterday; and Red has kept a pretty low profile, as Guiri pointed out the other day.)
I have no idea why Digger made that vote on Chronos; my best guess is that since there were three people (Zeriel, Mahaloth, Cookies) who had made it pretty clear they were voting for me and would continue to do so, he figured that if he lynched Chronos that day, it would be pretty easy to set me up for a lynch on a future day.
Would you still think we’re doing well if both of the mod-kills were Townies?
I actually thought about including that scenario in there, but I’ll just remain hopeful that one or both of them were Scum. I doubt it, but hey. Even then, if we nab Scum toDay I think it might turn things around–we can analyze voting patterns a bit more and maybe expose something useful for tomorrow.
Even so Drain, honestly you are beginning to ping.
5-4 would be LyLo toDay, right?
How do you reconcile Zeriel’s votes on Drain for the hidden smudge two Days in a row with them both being on the same scum team? I’d lean more towards MHaye being scum, especially for the last minute Day3 vote on OreDigger but unfortunately there’s not much to be revealed from analyzing his 10 or so posts… This doesn’t say anything about Drain’s alignment but I doubt Drain and Zeriel were both scum.
@ Mahaloth, I noticed this while re-reading (snipped, added italics):
Story voted you in 833 and you responded in 836 with:
Why the change from “At least story gives a reason” to “I really don’t know why” after Story’s reveal as Detective Chief Superintendent?
Two interesting questions, Guiri. I especially find the first telling…ed may know we’re at LyLo Tomorrow if we mislynch toDay, and slipped on something that is obvious to those paying attention. Right now, he’s trying to get me lynched for voting for Scum, which hopefully everyone else finds as ridiculous as I do. If it weren’t for the fact that I’m concerned about this being an OMGUS reaction instead of something well-thought-out, and the fact that Tom is still alive, I’d be voting for ed right now.