OK, I guess we did decide to do the mass name-claim, then. I would have liked a little more discussion first before starting it, to make sure we’re not doing something stupid, but then, I’m always reluctant to do things that can’t be undone.
Now that we’ve started, though, there’s no sense holding back:
Hey everyone! It’s me, the Town Mayor. I’m gonna keep taxes low, the roads fixed, terrorists at bay and THWAKK!
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Hmm, I appear to be dead. That kinda sucks. Oh well, I guess I’ll hang around to do post counts and maybe answer questions if needed until this all gets resolved. Good luck, everyone!
I would have liked to have waited until at least one night had passed. I don’t know what information it would have brought.
But, I still have a sizeable stack. Not gonna go all in on this argument. Gonna “fold” my stance against it.
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You are Joan Miró (Aritst). You win with the Town.**
Since when does Name Claim bring with it alignment ?
Should we look at the later claimers since we didn’t order the claims? OR the first few claimers? WIFOM. – That is, I can’t tell what Scum are doing here.
At this point, I don’t think we can read too much into the order of claims at all. First of all, the Scum haven’t had a chance to talk amongst themselves about any strategy they might have for gaming the claims. Second, they’ve been coming quick enough that it looks like each person claimed as soon as they saw the thread and that name claims were occurring (thought this wouldn’t apply to the first one or perhaps two). Third, the primary way that Scum would attempt to game a mass-claim would be to try to be the last to claim, so they know what everyone else has claimed and won’t accidentally claim the same as anyone else, but when the name-space appears to be “anyone with a Wikipedia page”, the chances of that happening are negligible, so I don’t know of any particular advantage they’d have in going at a particular time.
There is, I suppose, an argument to be made that Scum might want to be the first to claim, or the last to claim, or in the middle, or whatever, to give themselves cover. The difficulty there, though, is that you can make the case for any claim order at all, so it doesn’t give us any information. And even if a Scum did decide that it was best to claim first, say, e wouldn’t be able to put that into practice unless e happened to see the thread when the claims were just starting. Most aspects of post timing in this game are due to individuals’ schedules, not actually anything game-related.
Chronos, you offer good points. You are basically saying that claim order is a null tell. Correct?
You are basically stating that the “no particular order” (instead of a random order) actually benefits Town. Correct?
But, I think this road leads to the hot button issue of late “Scum would never do that”. Scum might not have been able to communicate yet, but they do know their brethren. If one of them have already claimed, it is possible that the rest fell in line, on some incredibly good guess or reading between the lines or other such coincidence.
Last time Freudian this, it was followed by listing the members, of (her?) non-VT cohort.
yeh, i claimed early because i am scum (not) and chose the wicked witch of the west. that sure instills a lot of town confidence i am sure. so yep claim order and a buck gets you coffee at mickey d’s.
and crud z are you really that obtuse?
two guys are in an eleveator.
one guy turns to the other and says: “ok, who farted?”
I’m saying it’s a null tell, and therefore neither benefits nor hurts Town. Given my druthers, I’d have preferred a set order, just to be absolutely certain Scum weren’t gaming it, but on the other hand, that would have taken more time (both to set up the order in a way that would make clear that the Scum weren’t gaming it, and to wait for the claims to come in as folks’ schedules would allow).
And I have no idea what you’re trying to get at with Freudian. You said “last time she did this”: What’s this “this” that she supposedly did?
Because clearly, it’s impossible that anyone would ever agree with anything anyone else ever said without having some special knowledge. I think one thing you need to learn in these games, Meeko, is to be able to look at the game from a generic point of view. From your knowledge that the three of you were all Masons, that might have stood out, but from anyone else’s point of view, it was completely unremarkable. Heck, I didn’t even notice it, and I did know who you all were.
Moving on, quoth Wanderers:
Clearly, somebody made a typo, here. But why assume it was NAF? It seems just as likely to me that it was sachertorte when he wrote the PM in the first place. And the fact that it’s misspelled the same way both times looks like NAF was copying and pasting from somewhere; why not from the actual PM?
Vote One and Only Wanderers for jumping to unjustified conclusions.