No one said anything about it until the OP unfused himself from the couch and started a thread.
What hatred and hysteria? The OP is a rather hysterical Pit Rant about how fat people are discriminated against, oh woe is me, it’s awful. The few dissenting voices have been fairly reasonable, and the (hateful?) jokes raised have all been anti-skinny people.
Personally, I was just responding in kind, sorta.
So, you have a slower matabolism, you still have to eat less. Just more less.
And WTF is time consuming about dieting, or eating less? Less time eating, I’d think.
Phobic means irrational fear. I don’t see any “phobes” here. I’m not scared of any of my friends.
No, of course I don’t hate people who can eat tons, not exercise and not gain weight. What an odd notion.
But once he did, you just couldn’t resist, right? Why is that?
Just when I thought we’d bludgeoned the topic to death …
Really? Oh, I guess I didn’t get that part. :rolleyes:
Oh, bullshit. There is no way you actually thought anyone was seriously recommending punching people, let alone cannibalism.
Yeah, cuz people never get hostile about fatness on the Dope. :rolleyes:
Gawd, you’re dumb. “Eating less means more free time”? Are you whooshing me?
There are uses for the “phobe” suffix that imply aversion, not just fear. Which you know. You just think it makes you look smart to say stuff like this, but really it makes you look even dumber.
You’re a moron.
I think he’s saying he knew it was a joke but still found it hostile.
This topic has been beaten so bad so frequently for so long it has fused into the couch. The only was to address it is through absurdity.
If being overweight (Body Mass Index >25) is a metabolism issue, how come the US is so badly affected in particular? The overweight people I know eat a lot - while not seeking “blame” or “fault”, surely it is not reasonable to deny overeating as a cause?
No, I was being sarcastic. Just like I was being sarcastic when I implied I thought people were advocating making me into a casserole. And, I haven’t been here long enough to see hostility against fat people here, nor would I condone it.
Well, I dunno. Doesn’t it take time to eat?? Or to wait in line at fast food restaurants? Every time I eat something, it takes me anything from a minute to, well, longer than that. Depending. Are you whooshing me?
Does this make you a moronophobe? Heh heh.
I have the day off work, it’s sunny and cold and pretty out. So, I am taking the dogs for an extra long walk.
"… and then I thought, “Hey, free smokes and cheetos!”
Americans do not have an obesity problem. Americans have a lifestyle problem, and one of the most apparent symptoms is obesity. Only and idiot would declare war on the symptom and not the disease. Fortunately, there are many, many idiots.
Correct. And the disease is that we eat crap, eat a lot of it and lead fairly sedentary lives. The cure for this would be to eat better, eat less and get more exercise. Which is what…drumroll, please…everyone here is saying that overweight folks should do. Ta-dah! See how neatly it all fits together.
I don’t know what the latest status is, but there has been research that suggests obesity may be linked to a virus. But whether there’s anything to it or not, there’s a long list of other factors that help explain why people today are so hefty.
Nice. A little levity in what we know is gonna end up a trainwreck.
On reflection, I think I should have made it:
First they came for the smokers, who couldn’t speak up because they were stuck outside in the rain, 50 feet from the entrance.
Then they came for the fat people, who couldn’t speak up because they were too busy wrangling over the last donut.
Now they’ve come for the ranters, complainers, and whiners, but I can’t speak up because – you see, there’s this thread on the SDMB I just have to respond to…
What Thudlow Boink said. Overweight people can’t always be lumped into the same “eats too much” category. Thyroid disease, for example, can cause weight gain. So can chemotherapy. And how many people in the US and Canada do you think have thyroid disease or get chemotherapy? You can be guaranteed it’s more than just a few hundred. There’s a whole host of other problems out there. It’s true that many people eat too much/exercise too little, but that can’t be applied to everyone. Anyone with an ounce of logic can realize that.
And it’s been proven that the BMI chart is garbage. I don’t know why it’s still being used, since it doesn’t take into account body fat percentage, which is what really matters. According to the BMI chart, competitive bodybuilders are unhealthily obese.
That study strikes me as rather dubious, TB. I do wish the press would have the patience to wait for actual publication in a reputable journal.
… or, indeed, whether obesity somehow causes the virus to become more apparent.
Which might explain the bodyfat ratio of those people whose calorific intake really is within the boundaries recommended for not becoming overweight. Looking around the world, I’d be surprised if that was more than a small minority.
First off, thanks to bonobo_jones for the coining of “Eat More Less.” I predict that’ll soon be on posters everywhere, with no royalties, sadly, to friend bonobo.
Second, I’ve heard and read OP’s complaint, or something very similar, with fair (and rising) frequency for several years now, and this (I’ll remember who asked me in a minute) is what I think:
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No fat people were harmed – much – in the making of this OP. The morbidly obese, like every other significant deviation from the norm, have always been subject to frequent unwelcome attention and occasional abuse. The increase in volume (sorry) seems to have come mostly from the ordinarily overweight, the well-off, sedentary, decently-fed large chunk (excuse me) of society. So far as I can personally attest, these people are treated, by and large, perfectly decently by the vast majority of their fellow citizens, most of whom are also overweight and presumably sympathetic, and some of whom are not overweight but still somehow not inclined to mistreat others based on appearance. I’ve spent some time looking, and I haven’t yet seen any persuasive evidence that fat people are a persecuted minority. For one thing, it’s hard to get by the fact that in the U.S., fat people are not a minority. I’m perfectly willing to believe that people are often mean, and that they may target something visible and easy like size if they’re stuck for an insult. But encounters with mean people happen to everybody, and those who aren’t overweight aren’t immune, they’re just the target of different insults. I’m losing my hair, but I don’t seize on every bald joke or jibe or the narrowness of modern hatbands and dearth of bald supermodels as an ersatz basis of solidarity and oppression with every other bald and balding person on the planet, even if our collective stridency might gain us some fleeting attention and sympathy. In short, I hear about abuse of fat people, but never anything serious, specific, and from a verifiable source.
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Fat people aren’t voiceless. They have the numbers, they have the money, and if they actually constituted an economic/political bloc with any solidarity*, our Sports Illustrated covers would be wider in February, our presidents would quit jogging down the street and falling off bicycles and go to work, Hollywood would be acclaimed for the quality of it’s acting and stories, and our news programs and magazines would go back to reporting news. If fat people were not themselves biased against fat people, or at least unmotivated to act on their behalf, they would rule the land. A very short time later, of course, leaner people would inherit it, but they’d have had their moment.
3)* They don’t, and the reason for this is that there are as many different paths to being overweight as there are people who are overweight. Sociological, psychological, endocrinological, any subset of the above, take your pick. I’m bald, ugly and have a bad personality. People discriminate against me. Sometimes this makes me sad, but it never makes me feel surprised and oppressed, because one thing I’m not is naive.
. . .but they couldn’t move them because they were fused to the couch.