Rap Sucks

True…but I don’t even do that. Not with a single author, director, actor, band, musician, songwriter. I don’t like ALL of anybody’s works, not even my favorites.

It is a difficult concept for me altogether. How can you “enjoy” all of a band’s output? Every band has sucky songs.

shrug Not that difficult, in my experience. There’s not a single Joy Division song, for instance, that I don’t like. Can’t think of a Pixies song I’d skip. If Led Zeppelin had stopped after four albums, they’d’ve made the cut, too. (“D’yer Maker” messes it up for me.)

Same with some other artists. Don’t think there’s a Coen Brothers movie I wouldn’t want to watch. When I was a kid, everything I read by Judy Blume was awesome. (I can’t really think of any other author these days that I’ve read as extensively.) Mike Royko the columnist got a bit crazy towards the end there, but I don’t remember ever reading a column I didn’t enjoy. And so on.

Yes, exactly. And someone once said they love EVERYTHING a certain author writes.

I love Terry Pratchett’s writing but I don’t love everything he writes. I love Douglas Addams’s writing but don’t love everything he writes. Etc.

I mean this is such a fundamental difference in people…and mark my words, I’ve met more people like you than me…that I really wonder what’s going on here. I’m not a pessimist. I don’t see the flaws in everyone. I don’t turn the coin over to always see the tarnish. But I don’t see perfection in anyone, and I have nobody I look up to either.

It’s weird. And interesting! But a hijack, unfortunately, so I will stop. :slight_smile:

Mmm… no, I think I can honestly say that there are some bands I enjoy that don’t have any sucky songs. They have songs that I enjoy less and songs that I enjoy more, but none of them fall all the way down to “sucky”.

ETA: Well, it’s not like the OP’s going to come back and complain that we hijacked his thread, Anaamika

Maybe that’s it. I don’t look for perfection, just enjoyment. Like I said, I don’t enjoy all the songs equally, but I enjoy all the songs to some extent. I don’t expect every piece to be a work of genius. It’s interesting you brought up Douglas Addams, as he wouldn’t have made the cut for me, either (though I thoroughly enjoyed the Dirk Gentlys and the first two, maybe three, Hitchhiker’s books.)

Has anybody posted a long list of obscure hip hop artists and groups yet? That seems SOP for these threads :wink:

Perhaps perfection was the wrong word.

Take for example one of my favorite bands - Red Hot Chili Peppers. I like maybe half a dozen songs of them, most of them from the album Californication. Wiki says they have recorded 153. (Holy shit).

That’s really, really high for me. Usually I like one, maybe two songs of a band, at most. Even the ones I love the best!

I kind of like it.

I don’t understand dubstep at all, and yet, sometimes I kind of like it too.

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I don’t think Neil Young has ever put out a sucky song. Some were less great than others, but worst are still better than a lot of stuff out there.

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It’s resentment. The CS mods get paid with Scotch, salmon steaks, and artichokes with garlic butter. The rest of us get a coffee mug and a CD of rap music performed by middle-aged white lawyers.
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Whatcha got against Lawyer Mike? Don’t be a hater.

Nothing worse than getting a bad rap.

You’re out of line for Cafe Society. Don’t do this again.

The nice thing about rap music is that now, even people with no musical talent whatsoever, can become rich.

But my parents said the same thing about them damn, long-haired rock groups like the Rolling Stones and Beatles and The Who…and they thought Janis Joplin was just screeching and not singing, and I think you can guess they were not huge fans of Jimi Hendrix.

I don’t like most country music, not at all a fan of polka or mariachi…but it is quite easy to avoid listening to it.

So while I would agree that rap is crap - I am not the target market and just kind of step away/change channels whenever it is played. No biggie. I am sure there will be something even worse down the line that will annoy the shit out of those kids/fans of rap/hip hop when they get older and have kids of their own…rite of passage.

Disco is dead like the dinosaurs are dead – i.e. their descendants, the birds, are still here. Disco’s descendants include pretty much any dance music these days that isn’t rap, and even some that is.

Although non-electronic disco is indeed dead. But this being said, I got my sister a dance game for x-mas a couple years ago, and not having had heard “Rasputin” by Boney M until I got the game, I assumed it was a song from the 1990s or 2000s. So disco music is similar enough to modern dance music to sometimes be confused for it in the low fi of TV speakers.

I actually enjoy a bit of dubstep influence in more mainstream dance music, but I have a hard time listening to extended periods of straight-up dubstep (especially the screechy sub-genre known disparagingly as “brostep.” See, for instance, Skrillex.) Now, I do think it’s cool and interesting what dubstep has come up with, and I love to hear new sounds and rhythms that I would never have imagined, but it just doesn’t do it for me in more than the lightest dose. Rap is easy listening in comparison.

Oh, and obligatory Key & Peele dubstep skit.

I feel similar to breakbeat music. I know the point of it is to have an entire song sound like the breakdown from classic EDM, but they are confined to breakdowns for a reason.

I don’t if I could positively identify dubstep but I feel the same thing about rap or crunk, or ska for that matter, I wouldn’t mind hearing one or two examples but not an extended set of it.

I am not sure I am buying it. They claim that the first rap songs were Jamaican and the first of those was Ska-ing West by Sir Lord Comic and His Cowboys in the early 1960’s. While it does have talking style lyrics, I would hardly call them rap and it is also missing all the other common rap or hip hop elements. It isn’t hard to find early recorded songs with people talking instead of singing but that doesn’t make it rap. Some country songs had them too.

You can judge for yourself here:

Compare that to Pigmeat Markham’s (American) Here Comes the Judge recorded on a comedy album in 1968 but had existed in various forms before that. It is remarkable in that it is not only an undeniable rap song but also has several other complex hip-hop elements clearly defined almost 10 years before the popularly accepted start of commercial rap music coming out of New York.

You can hear it for yourself here:

The existence of that song shows that rap and hip hop elements were already being established in some African-American music by at least the 1960’s as well.

Whether you look at paintings, music, or literature it’s the same story: there was a golden past where only the most talented geniuses would create their art for the richest kings and nobles. But then they started allowing any rube to do it for their own amusement. And then they invented free time. It just hasn’t been the same since.

You obviously don’t live in my neighborhood.