Real music died in the 1970s

For a little while, sure, but then Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce had to go and break up the band.

Do they have KISS pacifiers, diapers, etc. for the cradle? Because they have Kiss Kaskets for the grave.

Stay klassy, Gene Simmons!

Sorry, but I refuse to go gentle into that good night. Let’s remember that the 70’s brought us “She’s Having My Baby”, “Disco Duck”, and a 7 minute Canadian dirge about a shipwreck in Michigan. And Bread and Christopher Cross? URgh.

There’s crap and there’s good music in every decade. I graduated in 1979 and I’d rather hear Machine Gun Kelly than Rupert freaking Holmes sing about trying to cheat on his wife in the personals and getting matched up right back with her.

Singers like Mariah Carey and Celine Dion leave me cold. I don’t care if it’s Barbra Strisand singing Evergreen in the 70’s or whatever it is on the contemporary urban channel they’re always playing in the gym. Diva shit makes me cringe.

I used to say I didn’t like today’s music and then I realized it made me sound like an old fart telling kids to get off his lawn. I did some open minded listening (can so), and discovered that what I didn’t like was the channels I was listening to. I started by checking out a list of the over-the-air channels I could pick up in my car. I scratched off all the talk radio, the top 40 country and top 40 rock, dipped into some of the others, and found that there are stations out there I like. Mostly I look for the labels alternative and Americana. There’s a classic country station, that’s good for a listen, too.

Gary Clark, Jr., the Black Keys, Greta Van Fleet, Brandy Carlisle, Lord Huron, Sturgill Simpson, Leon Bridges, Hayes Caryll, … if you rely on what is pumped over the polite, lowest common denominator, suitable for the Piggly Wiggly-- yeah, you’re going to keep hearing pap. You can sit on your porch and gripe or you can honestly listen to any of dozens of stations on your computer or phone.

Would you accept a onesie?

I would! Never underestimate the merchandising industry, I guess.

I read this post and then looked at the username…

:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I would in a heartbeat, but unfortunately they don’t have my size.

I’d suspect that people whose music tastes haven’t changed since the vinyl era were listening to albums/tapes/CDs/mp3s rather than turning on Top 40 radio. You can make a Spotify list of only the songs you like and only play that list but that’s not different from only playing your music collection.

Every time I see one of these “This artistic thing sucks, prove me wrong” posts, I wonder how it would have gone if the OP said “Hey, what do you like about [thing]?” or “I like this stuff, what things would you recommend?” and people could say “I also like those groups as well as this related/similar newer music”

I was born in 1977. Maybe my ear for music has also ossified, but IMHO I think popular music has been stuck in the same style since around 1999 / 2000. Since we’re talking about popular music since 1979, to my ear the styles break down like this. The MTV / 80s era, from 1980 - 1989. The early 90s, from 1989 - 1995, with the exception of rap, with this era or rap (the MC Hammer / Ton Loc style) ending around 1992 rather than 1995. There was another short era in the late 90s running from 1995 - 1998 / 1999, again except for rap, which started a little earlier, basically when Tupac and Notorious BIG became popular.

Everything since then (comparing genre to genre) sounds to me like it’s the same style. The stuff Britney Spears, N-Sync, and the Backstreet Boys were doing at the turn of the millennium doesn’t sound any different to me than the current stuff by Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, etc. The rap of Notorious BIG and Tupac doesn’t sound any different to me than today’s rap. The story with country music is the same, with circa 2000 George Strait, Alan Jackson, and Toby Keith sounding no different to me than today’s country music.

Unless that changes, the classics 20 years from now will be the same as the classics of today, meaning music from the 1980s through 1999.

I’m not choosing a side in this debate. I mix some classic, timeless tunes with real godawful crap on my playlist. There are broken algorithms in Google’s database that have tried to quantity my musical tastes (and I use that word advisedly) and failed to come up with anything to sell me.

As the wise man said, “Make every song your favorite tune.”

Holy shit, you wouldn’t catch me dead in one of… oh, wait.

KISS Fisher-Price Little People

I thought that was sort of interesting in how it didn’t apply to me and I don’t mean that I’m some special eclectic mix of obscure tunes. Rather, I still add new music to my collection pretty much weekly though I’m guessing it mostly falls within some relatively narrow band of the music spectrum. I have music that touches genres/styles like hip-hop or electronic or country but my late teens/early 20s tastes were largely forged in the indie/alternative scene of the 90s and then the explosion of female singers later that decade. And I think my current tastes still probably reflect that.

But the article doesn’t seem to be saying “You’ll be picking up new songs by female artists who sort of remind you of Mazzy Star or Liz Phair” but rather “You’ll only like Mazzy Star and Liz Phair and think everything else sucks” which isn’t the case at all.

I don’t know if it’s true, but I’ve read numerous stories where experts have analyzed decades of pop music and came to the conclusion that over time music has become simpler and less diverse in terms of structure, lyrical content, musical range, etc.

This is pretty much what my dad said about my music growing up.

I follow a bunch of music journalists and critics I respect, mostly on Twitter.

That’s a great idea. Anyone have suggestions? Or even “Listen to this new stuff!” articles. Maybe we need a New (To Me) Omnibus thread.

Sigh… I haven’t “followed” a music critic since a guy named Andreas who’d talk about new bands in skateboarding magazines back in the 90s. Miss that guy, very witty, with deep insights.

Actually, some of us (that is, me) don’t care about music. Sure, I have preferences (AC/DC, Enya, 2NE1, Ariana Grande, Lizzo, for example) and dislikes (Iron Maiden, Tori Amos, BTS, Pharrell Williams, Taylor Swift, as counter examples). But music is just something to fill the background when I’m doing something else. I’m not invested in it at all.

So I rarely talk about music. Especially when genres are so arbitrary and hard to understand. There’s not much for me to say other than “I like this” or “I don’t”. But I don’t mean that others shouldn’t talk about music. I’ll read these kinds of threads, especially when it ascends above teenage-boy-style trash talk of bands.

I find this to be an incredibly strange comment. I can easily tell the difference between late 90s, early 00s pop (Britney, N-Sync, Backstreet, etc) and current stuff. Yes, Arianna and early 00s Brittney sound very different - and that’s not even getting into Billie Eilish. And Drake or Migos sounds nothing like Tupac or B.I.G. Even Kendrick Lamar who idolizes Tupac doesn’t sound like Tupac.

One clear distinction (to me) is that electronica has become more integrated in pop/rap, etc. Early 00s used synths, but it generally seems they really wanted to make sure you knew it.

Sounds like my mom in the 80s, when she was in her late 40s/early 50s. Everything I listened to fell into two categories, “that’s just yelling” or in the case of rap “it’s just talking” (disapprove) or “they sound like the Beatles” (approve). Anything with a pop hook sounded “like the Beatles”, including Van Halen’s Jump and The Cars.

I love drivers license by Olivia Rodrigo:

Pretty much anything by Billie EIlish. Lorde’s new single is pretty catchy:

Yep.

What makes you think the barista is allowed to do this?

I have a playlist of 2500+ songs that I listen to. I couldn’t tell you the name of half of them when they pop up. But that’s somewhat because I can’t keep up with all the great music being released. So much more than in the past.

It need not be trotted out at all. It’s pointless. It was brought up about 3 times in this thread. And multiple times in every thread of this nature. Sure, with a caveat, but really, why bring it up at all? It’s so predictable and doesn’t add to the discussion in any way.

Hey, did you hear about that study by real scientists!?