Reality finally sinking in - Iraq expectations lowered

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8942482/

About fucking time these morons in charge woke the fuck up. Pretty sad that this turned out exactly how many of us predicted, worse off then if we had stayed out. Looks like the new line (which I’ve seen coming for over a year) will be that we’ll hand over Iraq, and when it blows up to shit we’ll blame the Iraqis for their inability to control the place. I’m sure the revisionists will also forget the reality of things when we handed the country over, instead painting a rosy picture of how the country was “perfect” (and the idiots will believe them too!) when we gave it to the Iraqis. I can hear it now, “we went in freed them from the tyranny of SH and rebuilt their country, we did all we could have”. All this said while Bagdad burns.

We should have never touched that fucking place.

Does anyone else have Mad TV’s video dating skit music in their heads? Lowered Expectaaationssss

I wondering if it took the administration this long to realize their stupidity or this long to admit to their stupidity.

If things go the way the seem to nowadays, you’ll see all the usual crew, O’Reilly, Hannity etc. proclaim this as just another commonsense move on behalf of the fuckers who fucked up so badly in the first place*
*I don’t think they fucked up at all BTW. They got what the wanted IMO. They sent there message and made lots of money for a lot of their “base” in the process. The lives of average Americans lost fighting and the lives of Iraqis means nothing to these cunts.

I agree, I’m saying they fucked up from a historical POV. Fall of the republic and all that shit…

I suspect he means the insurgents.

Some choice bits from the article:

Amazing, Washington is now admitting that Iraq will not be a democracy, that we cannot defeat the insurgents and that we have no intention of fixing the infrastructure we’ve destroyed.

So what did we accomplsih exactly? From reading this article, it sounds like even the bushies are admitting that Iraq has been a failure and a mistake on every front.

If one buys into the theory (as I do) that the sole reason for invading Iraq was for Bush to depose Hussein - well, they did that.

Would could have literally threw that 400 Billion (and still counting) on a bonfire and got a better value for our money. I honestly can’t fathom who would support these bozos.

Yes, but in service of what?

My friend got into a car accident with a tow truck. It was basically a no-fault type accident and the driver offerred to repair my friend’s car for free, and leave the police out of it. He showed my friend his auto repair shop to prove that he was legit. My friend, being rather conservative, would normally call the police and tell the insurance company. In this case, he considered the $1,000 savings from not having to pay a deductible, and decided to let the garage fix his car. Well, they did a piss poor job patchwork type job. They didn’t properly fix the dents, used the wrong color paint, and somehow managed to add some new scratches and dents on the other side of the car. My friend took his car back there several times over a couple of months, paying extra for public transportation each time his car was in the shop. Finally, he gave up and decided to live with a banged up car.

About a month after his last visit to the mechanic, he gets a bill for $1,000 for (paraphrasing) “expenses above and beyond what we agreed on”. My friend was now fuming. He obviously was not going to pay. But he called them asked how they had the nerve to ask him for money. The response: It’s not our fault you banged up your car.

tow truck/garage = USA
my friend/his car = Iraq

In service of the desire of Bush to depose Hussein, what else?

But the electricity was working before his ouster. If we wanted to show them benefits of the war, shouldn’t we have picked problems that the war didn’t cause? :confused:

I really, really do hope that the George W. Bush Presidential Library is hidden behind a pork-rendering plant, or perhaps in a ravine someplace.

Or the Badlands of North Dakota! Yeah! Great idea!

What’s the over/under on the constitution draft getting completed today?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2005/08/15/international/i074946D22.DTL

In other reports it was mentioned that an agreement will appear on time… regardless if the Sunni leaders don’t approve. Shiite leaders threatened to ram the constitution through the Iraqi National Assembly.

Sounds like a shotgun wedding to me.

Don’t know, but they’ve got less than 3 hours to do something now.

Moving the goalposts is just step one. Step two will be explaining that its all Michael Moore’s/Clinton’s fault.

Both Bill and Hillary. And don’t forget Kerry; he’s responsible too!

Heck, if it weren’t for those godless homo traitor liberals stabbing America in the back, we woulda won.

Any guesses on the exact date of Kurdistan Indepence Day? I’ll take March 12, 2006 in the pool. The formal alliance of the newly-elected, sharia-based Shiite theocracy in Iraq with the one in Iran can’t be long afterward.

Turkish PM Erdogan is starting a peace-and-reconciliation campaign with the Kurds in Turkey. That’s a good thing anyway, but he can’t be unaware that there could be an even stronger desire for secession among them if there’s an adjacent independent homeland willing to expand its borders.

I think it’s Hillary Clinton’s and John Kerry’s fault… remember, they didn’t oppose the war, so they must bear just as much responsibility as Bush.