Jonathan_Chance:
I won’t say we’ve never thought about forum bans for certain posters. Not Will, in my memory, but I know we’ve kicked the idea around.
I’m not generally in favor of such for a few reasons.
Practicalities. The software isn’t set up for it so we’d have to track it manually and that will inevitably get screwed up.
Today’s pain in the butt poster can be tomorrow’s insightful debater. I’d hate to cut that off.
Different people contribute different things. And some people may find things insightful that others find obnoxious. If we’re to be independent arbiters then we need to do our best to be inclusive.
Because of that, while forum banning is in the toolbox, I’d be reluctant to use it. Thread bans - and occasional topic bans - are even used very sparingly when things are going obsessively off the rails.
Will a forum ban be similar to this threadban, and not preceded by a warning or note?
I won’t speak for everyone, but I believe it certainly could be. I don’t think I’d present one that way because such things tend to be based on a pattern of behavior.
But I’ll again point you to the registration agreement. Per the rules, staff may sanction with or without notice. Except in extreme cases, though, notice is better. Even without notice there’s likely been a long discussion behind the scenes.
Jasmine:
Being banned from a single thread is hardly anything at all, and an explanation was provided as to why it was done. So, there really is no issue other than your attitude that you should be able to say/do anything you want even if it is over and above the rules that everyone else here has to live with.
You just have to be right. Well, you’re not.
Nah. Liberal posters can spend entire careers petty sniping.
Left_Hand_of_Dorkness:
“Let that sink in”? Okay, dude.
“Factual claim” means “a claim that isn’t a matter of opinion, is either true or false.” I apologize for any ambiguity in the phrase.
You fall prey to the strange loop, here. What evidence do you believe is better than the evidence of the foremost intelligence-gathering organization in the world? I absolutely know that CIA lies sometimes. I’m no big fan of theirs. And I know they torture. But I also know that a torturer is not always lying, and a good liar isn’t always lying; CIA tells the truth far more often than they lie, for very good self-interested reasons. Absent your sudden proclamation that you have a superior intelligence-gathering network, I stand by the claim.
Yes putting out somewhat objective analysis work is quite different than their role here. This is a political gambit. Sorry, they lack credibility and to claim the perpetrators of Operation Mockingbird are gold-standard is laughable.
He made his biggest headlines as a liar, but I haven’t done any polling. You tell me.
Jonathan_Chance:
I won’t speak for everyone, but I believe it certainly could be. I don’t think I’d present one that way because such things tend to be based on a pattern of behavior.
But I’ll again point you to the registration agreement. Per the rules, staff may sanction with or without notice. Except in extreme cases, though, notice is better. Even without notice there’s likely been a long discussion behind the scenes.
I understand voluntary agreements.
Jonathan_Chance:
I won’t speak for everyone, but I believe it certainly could be. I don’t think I’d present one that way because such things tend to be based on a pattern of behavior.
But I’ll again point you to the registration agreement. Per the rules, staff may sanction with or without notice. Except in extreme cases, though, notice is better. Even without notice there’s likely been a long discussion behind the scenes.
To add:
A pattern of behavior could be established by looking at if the poster had been threadbanned in the past. It could be that the groundwork is being laid.
If that’s what helps you sleep at night, you go ahead and tell yourself that.
JeffB
December 4, 2018, 4:54pm
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Turning the lights off and on?
Kron
December 4, 2018, 8:58pm
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Well played, sir. golf clap
I got golf clap once.
You still have your woods, right?
■■■■ doing ■■■■, you’re ■■■■■■ it ■■■■ to ■■■■ anything ■ write!
Gyrate
December 5, 2018, 5:06pm
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As can conservative posters. And some of them have, without getting banned or getting any more Notes or Warnings than anyone else.
